[101200] in tlhIngan-Hol
[Tlhingan-hol] splitting -taHvIS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fiat Knox)
Sun Sep 20 13:10:43 2015
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:10:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fiat Knox <fiat_knox@yahoo.co.uk>
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Has any instance cropped up where you said "while X was refusing to Y" and =
had to insert -Qo'=C2=A0between -taH=C2=A0and -vIS?
It just occurred to me that -Qo'=C2=A0can be used in a non-imperative, mean=
ing refuse, and that -Qo'=C2=A0comes after all suffixes except=C2=A0a Type =
9 - so -Qo'=C2=A0should come between -taH=C2=A0and -vIS. Other than -neS, i=
t would be the only suffix technically capable of splitting these two suffi=
xes.
While *vumtaHQo'vIS vutwI' ghung Soj je'wI'pu'=C2=A0as long as the cook ref=
used to work, customers went hungry=C2=A0might technically be possible, doe=
s it sound awkward - or only as awkward as "To Boldly Go Where No-One Has G=
one Before" does to an English grammarian with a loathing of split infiniti=
ves and dangling prepositions?
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Co=
urier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2286" dir=3D"ltr">Has any instance cropped u=
p where you said "while X was refusing to Y" and had to insert <b>-Qo'</b>&=
nbsp;between <b>-taH</b> and <b>-vIS</b>?</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1=
_1442768570537_2286" dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14427685=
70537_2286" dir=3D"ltr">It just occurred to me that <b>-Qo'</b> can be=
used in a non-imperative, meaning <i>refuse</i>, and that <b>-Qo'</b> =
;comes after all suffixes <i>except</i> a Type 9 - so <b>-Qo'</b> =
;should come between <b>-taH</b> and <b id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_14427685705=
37_2379" class=3D"">-vIS</b><span class=3D"">. Other than <b>-neS</b>, it w=
ould be the only suffix technically capable of splitting these two suffixes=
.</span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2286" dir=3D"ltr"><span=
class=3D""><br></span></div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2286" di=
r=3D"ltr"><span class=3D"" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1442768570537_2461">While <b>=
*vumtaHQo'vIS vutwI' ghung Soj je'wI'pu'</b> <i id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_144=
2768570537_2460">as long as the cook refused to work, customers went hungry=
</i> might technically be possible, does it sound awkward - or only as=
awkward as "To Boldly Go Where No-One Has Gone Before" does to an English =
grammarian with a loathing of split infinitives and dangling prepositions?<=
/span></div></div></body></html>
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