[101067] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Beginners corner
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick)
Fri Aug 14 05:12:43 2015
From: Rohan Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 19:12:22 +1000
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ghItlhpu' Maxim=2C jatlh:
> {tulghach yIlon naDev 'elwI'pu'}
jang De'vID=2C jatlh:
> "Lasciate ogne speranza=2C voi ch'intrate"
> * Does one "abandon" hope in Klingon?
I=0A=
don't see why not. Klingons are pretty direct in general but that =0A=
doesn't mean they can't also be metaphorical. I see no problem with =0A=
{tultaHghach yIlon} "abandon hoping". A rendition following Dante's =0A=
meter (11-syllable lines stressed on 6 and 10) might be:
Hoch tultaHghach yIlon tlhIH=2C 'o 'elwI'pu'
"Abandon all hoping=2C O those who enter"
(poD vay')
jang je Voragh=2C jatlh:
> TIP: If you can't find a good noun=2C try rephrasing with a verb: *{tulH=
a'choH}.
Also a good suggestion=2C though.
petulHa''eghmoHchu' tlhIH=2C 'o 'elwI'pu'
"Cause yourselves to completely lose hope=2C O those who enter"
taH:
> I'll let the BG deal with the rest of Maxim's post.
BG ghu' cherlu'chu'ta''a'?
QeS 'utlh =
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>ghItlhpu' Maxim=2C jatlh:<br>>=
=3B {tulghach yIlon naDev 'elwI'pu'}<br><br>jang De'vID=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B=
"Lasciate ogne speranza=2C voi ch'intrate"<br>>=3B * Does one "abandon" =
hope in Klingon?<br><br>I=0A=
don't see why not. Klingons are pretty direct in general but that =0A=
doesn't mean they can't also be metaphorical. I see no problem with =0A=
{tultaHghach yIlon} "abandon hoping". A rendition following Dante's =0A=
meter (11-syllable lines stressed on 6 and 10) might be:<br><br>Hoch tultaH=
ghach yIlon tlhIH=2C 'o 'elwI'pu'<br>"Abandon all hoping=2C O those who ent=
er"<br><br>(poD vay')<br><br>jang je Voragh=2C jatlh:<br>>=3B TIP: If yo=
u can't find a good noun=2C try rephrasing with a verb: *{tulHa'choH}.<br><=
br>Also a good suggestion=2C though.<br><br>petulHa''eghmoHchu' tlhIH=2C 'o=
'elwI'pu'<br>"Cause yourselves to completely lose hope=2C O those who ente=
r"<br><br>taH:<br>>=3B I'll let the BG deal with the rest of Maxim's post=
.<br><br>BG ghu' cherlu'chu'ta''a'?<br><br>QeS 'utlh </div></bod=
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