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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qep'a' report
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu Aug 6 06:08:23 2015
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>, tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 10:08:02 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CA+7zAmN5syX-hmWXHJbzk2sWW9XC1DyxWCviDaWHcS-_ATvm6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Robyn Stewart <robyn.stewart@kisik.ca>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@kli.org
> pollaH pagh polHa'laH, qar'a'? A distinction without a difference, so
> to speak? (Or is Marc only speaking "ex cathedra" when Maltz is
> summoned? :-) )
I tend to think of Marc's statements as being "tiered"; there are those whi=
ch are written down, those that are spoken but premeditated, those that he =
makes on the fly with an air of certainty, and those that he makes on the f=
ly with an air of doubt.
His statements on the fly are still canon in my view, but can easily be ove=
rridden by more thoroughly considered statements.
There are those who don't view those on-the-fly statements as canon at all,=
but, well ... maQoch 'e' wIQochbe'.
> He was receptive to that, and also mentioned that now he has retired
> he isn=92t quite as concerned about the need to be =93family-friendly.=94
Oh, what a time to be alive!
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From: De'vID [de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2015 11:03
To: tlhIngan-Hol
Cc: Robyn Stewart
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] qep'a' report
On 5 August 2015 at 22:44, Robyn Stewart <robyn.stewart@kisik.ca> wrote:
> Note that this was a conversation with Marc, not matlh, so not canon.
pollaH pagh polHa'laH, qar'a'? A distinction without a difference, so
to speak? (Or is Marc only speaking "ex cathedra" when Maltz is
summoned? :-) )
> - I asked him about how we would describe someone=92s right hand. I said=
I would say nIHwIj ghop =91the hand of my right side=92 and he said =93I w=
ould do that too,=94 making a dissatisfied face about the alternative nIH g=
hopwIj =91my hand of the right side.=92
>
> - I asked =93or are nIH and poS like tlhop and =91em, taking the pronoun =
rather than the possessive suffix?=94 but he felt that nIHwIj was correct.
So how would one talk about an alien species with front and back hands
(in addition to left and right ones)? {nIHDaj ghop, ghaH 'em ghop je}?
> - I asked if vogh could be used for a static locative, or was it only pa=
=92 naDev and Dat that did not take =96Daq. He said that he did not think h=
e had intended the list in TKD to be exclusive, and that vogh could probabl=
y be a locative all by itself, but that he would have to re-read it to be s=
ure.
The only instance {vogh} I recall is {vogh vISuch vIneH} from
Conversational Klingon, from which we can't infer anything.
Are there any other uses of {vogh} in canon?
--
De'vID
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