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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: De'wI'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Will Martin)
Thu Jul 30 12:26:40 2015

From: Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:26:22 -0400
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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I see a radically different interpretation of the derivation of =
De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, based on the character Data.

It=E2=80=99s a noun with a possessive suffix.

Information capable of using language.

And it=E2=80=99s mine.

pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



> On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> =
wrote:
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>> Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, July 30, 2015
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>> Klingon word: De'wI'
>> Part of speech: noun
>> Definition: computer
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> Okrand at qepHom 2012 [via De'vID 11/22/2012]:  Maltz said that the =
primitive computer systems used by Terrans are very different from the =
superior systems used by Klingons, but there is some overlap. He was =
going to give this more thought also, but he did say that the closest =
thing to World Wide Web is {weQmoQnaQ}. [...] I checked with Maltz. He's =
fuzzy about Terran computer technology and computer terms, but he said =
that {weQmoQnaQ} is not the same thing as the Internet. He said, if he =
understands correctly, you can do many more things with the Internet =
than just dealing with the {weQmoQnaQ}.
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> Derived from Old Klingon *{De'} "to compute" (Krankor) or "process =
information" (ghunchu'wI')?
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> KGT 101f.:  When taking a table's order, the {jabwI'} neither writes =
anything down nor enters data into a computer.
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> KGT 71:  The word used for compose is {qon}. This verb also means =
record and is used whether the recording is by hand ... in a medium =
suitable for a computer, or any other form.
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> KGT 79:  By extension, the term {raQ} is also used when referring to =
controlling a space vessel "manually" (that is, when the controls are =
manipulated directly by a person rather than a computer)
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> "Computers make excellent and efficient servants, but I have no wish =
to serve under them... I simply maintain that computers are more =
efficient than human beings, not better." (Spock, TOS "The Ultimate =
Computer")
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> SEE ALSO:
> De'wI' pat  		computer system  (KBoP)
> De'wI' Qulpa'  		computer research lab (KBoP)
> De'wI' SoSbor'a'  	main computer core (KBoP)
> Qum De'wI' 		communications computer (KBoP)
> ya De'wI' 			tactical computer (KBoP)
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> There's a list of computer terms on WikiPedia: =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N-true/List_of_Klingon_computer_terms=20=

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> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">I see a radically different interpretation of =
the derivation of De=E2=80=99wI=E2=80=99, based on the character =
Data.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">It=E2=80=99=
s a noun with a possessive suffix.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Information capable of using =
language.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">And =
it=E2=80=99s mine.</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">
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class=3D"">lojmIt tI'wI'nuv</div><div class=3D""><br =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Steven Boozer &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" =
class=3D"">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D"">Klingon Word of the Day for Thursday, July 30, =
2015<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Klingon word: De'wI'<br class=3D"">Part =
of speech: noun<br class=3D"">Definition: computer<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">Okrand at qepHom 2012 [via De'vID =
11/22/2012]: &nbsp;Maltz said that the primitive computer systems used =
by Terrans are very different from the superior systems used by =
Klingons, but there is some overlap. He was going to give this more =
thought also, but he did say that the closest thing to World Wide Web is =
{weQmoQnaQ}. [...] I checked with Maltz. He's fuzzy about Terran =
computer technology and computer terms, but he said that {weQmoQnaQ} is =
not the same thing as the Internet. He said, if he understands =
correctly, you can do many more things with the Internet than just =
dealing with the {weQmoQnaQ}.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Derived from =
Old Klingon *{De'} "to compute" (Krankor) or "process information" =
(ghunchu'wI')?<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">KGT 101f.: &nbsp;When taking =
a table's order, the {jabwI'} neither writes anything down nor enters =
data into a computer.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">KGT 71: &nbsp;The =
word used for compose is {qon}. This verb also means record and is used =
whether the recording is by hand ... in a medium suitable for a =
computer, or any other form.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">KGT 79: =
&nbsp;By extension, the term {raQ} is also used when referring to =
controlling a space vessel "manually" (that is, when the controls are =
manipulated directly by a person rather than a computer)<br class=3D""><br=
 class=3D"">"Computers make excellent and efficient servants, but I have =
no wish to serve under them... I simply maintain that computers are more =
efficient than human beings, not better." (Spock, TOS "The Ultimate =
Computer")<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">SEE ALSO:<br class=3D"">De'wI' =
pat &nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>computer system &nbsp;(KBoP)<br class=3D"">De'wI' Qulpa' =
&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>computer research lab (KBoP)<br class=3D"">De'wI' SoSbor'a' =
&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>main computer core (KBoP)<br class=3D"">Qum De'wI' <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	=
</span>communications computer (KBoP)<br class=3D"">ya De'wI' <span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span><span =
class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre">	</span>tactical =
computer (KBoP)<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">There's a list of computer =
terms on WikiPedia: <a =
href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N-true/List_of_Klingon_computer_=
terms" =
class=3D"">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N-true/List_of_Klingon_comput=
er_terms</a> <br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">--<br =
class=3D"">Voragh<br class=3D"">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________<br =
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class=3D"">Tlhingan-hol@kli.org</a><br =
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