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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] I found a mistake in one of the new Klingon words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Mar 17 15:01:23 2015
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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jIQochbe=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99. It never occurred to me that a towel =
might be a skin dryer. I read it exactly as Andr=C3=A9 does.
I like that you are reading and interpreting and thinking about what =
words mean, so you understand rather than substitute meanings. Keep it =
up.
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- Qov
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From: Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller [mailto:esperantist@gmail.com]=20
Sent: March 17, 2015 9:32
To: a.appleyard@btinternet.com
Cc: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] I found a mistake in one of the new Klingon =
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I think it's not a mistake. We know that {DIr} can also refer to an =
animal's hide, or a piece of cloth made out of a hide, {DIrmey} refers =
to skins used for clothing. And in {QaDmoHwI' DIr} the first part =
doesn't necessarily have to be the possessor, it can also be a modifier. =
So I'd interprete the word, very literally translated, as a "dry-maker =
skin".
Perhaps this tells us that Klingon towels are indeed made of animal =
skin, perhaps with the hairs still attached.
- Andr=C3=A9
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2015-03-17 17:26 GMT+01:00 Anthony Appleyard =
<a.appleyard@btinternet.com>:
http://www.speakklingon.info/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/Q/
says that QaDmoHwI' DIr is a noun meaning "towel". But the compound is =
in the wrong order, and means "the skin of that which makes (things) =
dry". "That which makes the skin dry" would be DIr QaDmoHwI' .
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D'>jIQochbe=E2=80=99chu=E2=80=99. It never occurred to me that a towel =
might be a skin dryer. I read it exactly as Andr=C3=A9 does.<br><br>I =
like that you are reading and interpreting and thinking about what words =
mean, so you understand rather than substitute meanings. Keep it =
up.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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M=C3=BCller [mailto:esperantist@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> March 17, =
2015 9:32<br><b>To:</b> a.appleyard@btinternet.com<br><b>Cc:</b> =
tlhingan-hol@kli.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tlhingan-hol] I found a =
mistake in one of the new Klingon words<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal>I think it's not a mistake. We know that {DIr} can =
also refer to an animal's hide, or a piece of cloth made out of a hide, =
{DIrmey} refers to skins used for clothing. And in {QaDmoHwI' DIr} the =
first part doesn't necessarily have to be the possessor, it can also be =
a modifier. So I'd interprete the word, very literally translated, as a =
"dry-maker skin".<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Perhaps this tells us that Klingon towels =
are indeed made of animal skin, perhaps with the hairs still =
attached.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- =
Andr=C3=A9<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>2015-03-17 17:26 GMT+01:00 Anthony Appleyard <<a =
href=3D"mailto:a.appleyard@btinternet.com" =
target=3D"_blank">a.appleyard@btinternet.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a =
href=3D"http://www.speakklingon.info/about-klingon/new-klingon-words/Q/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.speakklingon.info/about-klingon/new-klingon-=
words/Q/</a><br><br>says that<strong> QaDmoHwI' DIr</strong> is a noun =
meaning "towel". But the compound is in the wrong order, and =
means "the skin of that which makes (things) dry". "That =
which makes the skin dry" would be <b>DIr QaDmoHwI' =
</b>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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