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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] [Phonetics] -ew', -Iw', -Iy'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Holt)
Tue Feb 10 22:28:10 2015
From: David Holt <kenjutsuka@live.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:27:51 -0600
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> lojmIt tI=92wI=92 nuv =91utlh jatlh=2C
> Effectively=2C {w} and {y} are {u} and {I} used as consonants=2C creating=
the only shift from one> vowel sound to another in Klingon without a conso=
nant between them. Since Klingon lacks> the Japanese =93long=94 vowel idea=
=2C you can=92t have {uw} or {Iy}. I=92m not sure why {ow} is not> allowed=
=2C unless Okrand is making fun of the impure long =93o=94 sound that Engli=
sh speakers> tend to use.
Actually {y} used in diphthongs represents /i/ doesn't it? Thus {Iy} is al=
lowed=2C as attested by the words=2C {lIy}=2C {mIy}=2C {wIy}=2C and {SonchI=
y}. janSIy =
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'><br> =3B<BR><div>>=3B lojm=
It tI=92wI=92 nuv =91utlh jatlh=2C<br>>=3B Effectively=2C {w} and {y} are=
{u} and {I} used as consonants=2C creating the only shift from one</div><d=
iv>>=3B =3Bvowel sound to another in Klingon without a consonant betw=
een them. Since Klingon lacks</div><div>>=3B =3Bthe Japanese =93long=
=94 vowel idea=2C you can=92t have {uw} or {Iy}. I=92m not sure why {ow} is=
not</div><div>>=3B =3Ballowed=2C unless Okrand is making fun of the =
impure long =93o=94 sound that English speakers</div><div>>=3B =3Bten=
d to use.<br></div><div>Actually {y} used =3Bin diphthongs =3Brepre=
sents /i/ doesn't it? =3B Thus {Iy} is allowed=2C as attested by the wo=
rds=2C {lIy}=2C {mIy}=2C {wIy}=2C and =3B{SonchIy}.</div><div> =3B<=
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