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another successful instalation of RH4.0, and more comments

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Simon J Mudd)
Sat Nov 2 04:01:33 1996

Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 14:12:55 +0100 (MET)
From: Simon J Mudd <sjmudd@bitmailer.net>
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I've just successfully upgraded from 3.0.3 to 4.0 at work.  However, since
I work alone on linux I'd like to point out a few things that caused a
little trouble.

Before I do this I have to say that a clean install from local cd-rom
seems to work very smoothly.  Perhaps the upgrades cause most of the
problems, especially under non-optimal conditions. 

The PC I used 3.0.3 on has no CD-ROM.  To install 3.0.3 I had borrowed a
cd-rom reader for a sun and installed via NFS.  Very clean and painless 
in its day (a few months ago).

For the upgrade, I didn't have access to the CD-ROM reader, but do have a
PC running 3.51 NT server (which has a cd-rom drive) which I decided to
use for an ftp install. 

After various attempts I gave up.  The console log messages indicated
problems loading the files, and I concluded that this is because NT shows
the disk as a DOS format disk, and thus confuses the ftp installation (no
rock-ridge extensions)

[Q: Does the NT ftp server support cdroms formated iso9660 with rock-ridge
extensions?]

I also tried downloading the RedHat directories to the local hard-disk
(ext2fs partition containing all of 3.0.3), but the install scripts
complained when trying to mount it, as it was defined previously as where
I wanted the root partition.  I didn't have space on the other (DOS)
partitions for the files.  I would imagine that for upgrades this is
likely to be the place most people download the images to.  Should the
install script recognise this and not complain?

Finally I gave up and by hand ftped the files to the Sun, wrote a script
to change the names to the "real long names", and from there on the NFS
installation was clean and quick.

If the NFS server does not allow the client access (permission denied) to
the requested directory, could the install program tell me? 

I thought I was specifying the directory incorrectly, but the fault was I
hadn't exported the directory.  Maybe an experienced sysop would know
this, but I didn't, and we don't have experienced/any sysops on-site :-) 

The manual seemed a little clear on the following things:

1. mounting and describing the NFS directory
	From what I see the directory name to give should be the "base
directory" of the cd-rom, not the RedHat directory.  Could this be
mentioned in the manual somewhere so it is clearer.

2. ftp installations NEED the correct complete filenames to work (or if
not why didn't it work, I did download the latest boot.img and supp.img
files), thus careful with NT servers exporting the cd-rom via ftp.

3. a shell script (which isn't too difficult if you've used awk a few
times) which converts MS-DOS filenames to the unix ones (using the
TRANS.TBL mapping file) would be useful for people who want to download
the cd-rom so they can do an NFS install, but don't see the cd-rom in
ISO9660 format, and thus get the names in MS-DOS format.  Make this shell
script as general as possible so that it should work under non-Linux
unices.  There are differences between SunOs' awk and linuxes gawk, the
latter being more powerful: go for the lowest common denominator. 

regards,

Simon J Mudd, Madrid, SPAIN
e-mail: sjmudd@bitmailer.net


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