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Re: Which E-Mailer?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jan Carlson)
Mon Nov 23 13:28:52 1998

Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:23:34 -0500
From: Jan Carlson <janc@iname.com>
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Have you looked into IMAP instead of POP3?
It keeps the mail on one machine, and you can read it  from any machine that
can connect.    It works beautifully with Netscape Communicator,
which displays messages at full height in a separate
window, or 90% of full height in the same window.
 The email gui in version 4.5 is completely different than 4.0x.

With POP, the slow part is downloading messages up front.
With IMAP, it only downloads headers up front, and the slow
part is downloading each message when you open it.

They put a lot into IMAP support in 4.5, and I beleive it supports
stealing the lock and kicking out the copy you left running elsewhere.

How well it all works depends on how robust the IMAP server is,
of course, as well as the client.   I used an IMAP server from a
Debian linux machine last year, and it was reasonable but not
perfect.

Ramon Gandia wrote:

> OK, here is the setup.
>
> My main server gets my mail from the internet and makes it
> available to me via POP, so I need to interface to that.
> Fetchmail seems reasonable.  I have no problems with fetchmail.
>
> At home, I have one Linux Redhat Box, and another one at
> work.  the two are networked together via ethernet (couple
> of miles via ADSL magic at T-1 speed, but is ethernet in
> effect).
>
> Now here is what I want to do.
>
> I want to be able to get my mail at EITHER location, but I
> want just one set of files, folders, mailboxes, whatever at
> only ONE location (home).  This is because I do not want to
> have one set of mail messages in one location, and another
> set in the other box.  It is a pain, specially when running
> a business, to have mail get udesychronicitated like that.
> (word invented here).
>
> Now, the programs must run in X windows.  If you think that
> using NFS is the answer, read on.
>
> The programs must either NOT lock the files, or LOCK them
> ONLY when actually writing and unlock immediately after.
> Otherwise, what will happen is that I leave the office and
> accidentally leave the mail program running there (the
> computers are NEVER shut down).  Then I get home and find I
> am locked out of my mail.
>
> This scenario happens when trying to use Netscape 4.5 under
> Windows 95.  Incidentally, for those interested in the Win 95
> method, I have nothing but HORROR stories to tell you about
> Win 95 Peer-to-Peer networking.  In a word: sucks.  It is
> unstable with multiple reboots needed every week to get the
> connections back up.  Unlike Linux, when one of the Win 95
> computers drops out, it does not come back on the peer to
> peer when booted back.  And if you have password protection
> on the files, you have to go to the OTHER location (2 miles)
> to type the stupid thing in.
>
> If NFS is used, I can block the NFS port on the router to the
> outside world to block crackers.
>
> Any idea of which programs might be suitable for this scheme?
> I have toyed with Netscape 3.04, (I love its interace), and
> with exmh (too new to tell).  Some others like TkRat I was not
> able to get going.
>
> ONe of the most aggravating things, in my opinion, is mail readers
> that are paned horizontally so that the message has to be
> scrolled after reading 10 lines or so.  That is what I love about
> Netscape 3.04; using "split vertical" I get a full height message
> display.  I *would* consider 3.04 as my mailer; it has NO locks
> that I can tell, but I am never in two places at the same time.
>
> Reader input requested.

--

Jan Carlson
janc@iname.com   Scarborough, Ontario, Canada
Mailed with Netscape 4.5 on Red Hat Linux 5.2




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