[3003] in comp.os.os2.announce archive
RESULT: comp.sys.net-computer.{advocacy,announce,misc} - all groups pass
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Bostwick)
Tue Jun 3 00:07:47 1997
To: os2ann.DISCUSS@bloom-picayune.MIT.EDU
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 20:16:12 GMT
From: David Bostwick <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu>
Reply-To: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu
RESULT
unmoderated group comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy passes 229:30
moderated group comp.sys.net-computer.announce passes 251:20
unmoderated group comp.sys.net-computer.misc passes 241:29
comp.sys.net-computer.* results - 275 valid votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
229 30 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy
251 20 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.net-computer.announce
241 29 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.net-computer.misc
3 invalid votes
Newsgroups lines:
comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy Relative merits of Network Computers.
comp.sys.net-computer.announce Announcements relating to Network Computers. (Moderated)
comp.sys.net-computer.misc Network Computers and related topics.
The voting period ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1997.
This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: James Sears <js@null.net>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe@netins.net>
Votetaker: David Bostwick <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu>
RATIONALE: comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy
There are fundamental differences between traditional personal
computers (PCs) and Network Computers (NCs). Because of this one
of the most active areas of discussion is likely to be comparing
the relative merits of NCs and PCs, hence the need for a
dedicated advocacy group.
RATIONALE: comp.sys.net-computer.announce
There is currently great public and media interest in the subject
of Network Computers, and because the Network Computer is an
emerging technology there are announcements all the time from
companies relating to their NC developments.
There is currently no newsgroup dedicated to announcements
relating to Network Computers, and the creation of this newsgroup
would allow NC related announcements to be channelled to people
interested in such topics. Like other comp.sys.*.announce groups
this group should be moderated to ensure only valid NC related
announcements are posted.
RATIONALE: comp.sys.net-computer.misc
Ever since the Network Computer idea was proposed by Oracle,
Apple, IBM, Netscape, and Sun, last year, it has attracted
immense public and media attention.
The Network Computer (NC) is not only a device, but a fundamental
change in the direction of computers which has the potential to
change everyone's lives, as much as the telephone and TV have
done in the past. Computers will cease to be seen as a magic box
which the general public either fear or don't understand, but
will become a consumer device, opening up many possibilities for
future work, communication, and entertainment.
There has been a fair amount of discussion about the NC in
various newsgroups, mainly those connected to companies who are
working on core NC technology (eg Acorn, comp.sys.acorn.*).
However partly because of it's revolutionary nature, there is
currently no newsgroup dedicated to the Network Computer.
This newsgroup is intended to be a discussion area for any topic
relating to the Network Computer, to complement the announcements
newsgroup proposed above. In the future it would be possible to
expand the comp.sys.net-computer.* hierarchy with additional
sub groups, for example .hardware, if and when this is necessary.
CHARTER: comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy
The comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy newsgroup should be used for
all discussions about the relative merits of the Network Computer
compared to PCs or NetPCs, or one NC compared to another NC.
Such discussions should be contained in this newsgroup, and
should not take place in any other comp.sys.net-computer.*
newsgroups.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.sys.net-computer.announce
The content of posts to comp.sys.net-computer.announce should be
current, textual, information, and must relate to the Network
Computer (NC). This includes press releases and news items,
as well as any other topical announcements relating to Network
Computers. The group will also be used to distribute information
relating to the comp.sys.net-computer.* newsgroups, for example
a FAQ.
Although this group is intended primarily for announcements
relating to Network Computers which comply with Network Computer
Inc's standards, other posts which are closely related to the
topic of NCs will also be accepted if the moderators believe they
are relevant and will be of interest to readers.
Advertising is not permitted, unless the document contains
information of interest to the intended audience of the newsgroup.
For example an advert for a Network Computer exhibition or
conference would be welcome.
Repeat postings are not not acceptable unless there has been a
major change to the information contained, or the posting is an
accepted regular posting like a FAQ.
This newsgroup will be moderated. Moderation policies:
The moderators will accept any post which is in keeping with the
above charter, and will NOT give more importance to announcements
from any one company. Submissions which are clearly inappropriate
will be rejected without a reason, any other marginal post will
be returned to the sender with a note from the moderator
explaining their decision.
END CHARTER.
CHARTER: comp.sys.net-computer.misc
The newsgroup comp.sys.net-computer.misc is a general discussion
area for any topic relating directly to Network Computers which
comply with Network Computer Inc's specifications.
Topics relating to the relative merits of Network Computers when
compared to each other, or more likely to standard PCs or NetPCs
should not be discussed in this group, but should be confined to
the comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy group.
Advertising and announcements of any kind are not allowed in this
newsgroup. If there is an advert or announcement relating to
Network Computers then such a post should be directed to the
moderated group comp.sys.net-computer.announce.
Binaries are not permitted. This group will be unmoderated.
END CHARTER.
MODERATOR INFO: comp.sys.net-computer.announce
Moderator: James Sears <js@null.net>
Moderator: Stuart Halliday <stuart@quantumsoft.co.uk>
Administrative contact address: nc-request@rocket.demon.co.uk
Article submission address: nc@rocket.demon.co.uk
END MODERATOR INFO.
DISTRIBUTION:
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comp.sys.acorn.misc
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comp.sys.arm,
comp.sys.mac.comm
alt.comp.convergence
comp.sys.net-computer.* Final Vote Ack
comp.sys.net-computer.misc -----+
comp.sys.net-computer.announce ----+|
comp.sys.net-computer.advocacy ---+||
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94cep@eng.cam.ac.uk Chris Poole -YY
A.G.Jackson@durham.ac.uk A.G.Jackson YYY
a.gilby@ic.ac.uk Adrian Gilby YYY
A.T.Loukes@ecs.soton.ac.uk Andrew Loukes YYY
aaron@priven.sf.ca.us Aaron Priven YYY
aidan@demi.demon.co.uk Aidan Corey YYY
ajb44@thor.cam.ac.uk Alex Burr YYY
akoskine@cc.helsinki.fi Aaro J Koskinen YYY
Alain.Thivillon@alma.fr Alain Thivillon YYY
alan.gray@argonet.co.uk Dr A.G.Gray YYY
alan.ralph@ukonline.co.uk Alan Ralph YYY
alexsmith@enterprise.net Alexander T. Smith. YYY
aliska@UU.NET Allan Liska YYY
amell@cup.cam.ac.uk Andy Mell -YY
andre@dialis.xs4all.nl Andre Tibben YYY
andrew@raffle.demon.co.uk Andy Raffle YYY
andy@oznet.demon.co.uk Andy Osborne YYY
ant@simsfam.demon.co.uk Anthony Sims YYY
antera@pop.onwe.co.za ANton Erasmus YYY
apardoe@u.washington.edu Andrew Pardoe YYY
arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva -YY
ars@ziplink.net Ariel YYN
ash@dasb.fhda.edu Ash YYY
aueditor@post.idg.co.uk Steve Turnbull YYY
B.Strawson@cs.ucl.ac.uk Ben Strawson YYY
ben@confusion.org Ben Jameson -YY
ben@qsure.demon.co.uk Ben Jefferys YYY
benjamin.ollivere@st-johns.oxford.ac.uk Ben Ollivere YYY
bill.burns@daltile.com Bill Burns NNN
bob.potter@argonet.co.uk Bob Potter YYY
bonine@interaccess.com Steve Bonine YYY
booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda NNN
bouvin@daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin YYY
bray@iupui.edu Bruce D. Ray YYY
brian@keeffe.demon.co.uk Brian O'Keeffe YYY
Bruce.Taylor@hedb.uib.no Bruce Taylor YYY
bryan@csolon.demon.co.uk Bryan Hogan YYY
cbstone@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Chris Stone NNN
ccchas@showme.missouri.edu Charles Turner YYY
cdowns@argonet.co.uk Clifford Downs YYY
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chads@argonet.co.uk Steve Bradbury -YY
cipher@mindspring.com David A. Howard YYY
cjb@brushtail.apana.org.au Chris Baird YYY
ckk@ckk.com Chris Koenigsberg YYY
cmcqueen@argonet.co.uk Colin McQueen YYY
cmcurtin@research.megasoft.com Matt Curtin YYY
coleman@cstp.umkc.edu Mike Coleman YYY
Colin.Hogben@jet.uk Colin Hogben YYY
Colin@meucymru.co.uk Colin G. Bennett YYY
csc5cjw@gps.leeds.ac.uk C J Ward YYY
czaby@kaliban.csoma.elte.hu Peter Czabala YYY
D.M.Pick@qmw.ac.uk David Pick YYY
damien@wopr.oif.com Damien Weiss YYY
daved@michelob.wustl.edu Dave Dickerson YYY
David@arachnesoft.demon.co.uk David Miller YY-
david@infotrek.demon.co.uk David Croft YYY
david@xara.com David Matthewman YYY
dc@panix.com David W. Crawford NYN
deadlock@one.net DeadLock the Feral NNN
delabeau@iniki.gsfc.nasa.gov J-F Pitot de La Beaujardiere YYY
dfyriart@vais.net Douglas F. Yriart YYY
dgs@argonet.co.uk Daniel Shimmin YYY
dlharpr@ibm.net Dan Harper YYY
dmacca@cableinet.co.uk Duncan MacCallum YYY
douglas@pobox.com Douglas L Stewart YYY
DOUGLASD@waikato.ac.nz Douglas Davey YYY
dpetrov@nchadvisors.com Dmitry Petrov YYY
dpip100@hermes.cam.ac.uk Douglas Pierce-Price YYY
dshao@best.com David Shao NNN
dsmcf@sc3d.org McFarlane, Donald S. (PCA) YYN
dstokely@csc.com David Stokely YYY
e-brewer@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Ellen F. Brewer YYY
E.Dinkla@net.HCC.nl Ernst Dinkla YYY
ebehr@internode.net Eve M. Behr -YY
ebright@coil.com James R. Ebright YYY
eddie@nevis.demon.co.uk Edward Peckham YYY
EduardPfarr@swol.de Eduard Pfarr -YY
een6okc@electeng.leeds.ac.uk Oliver Clark YYY
ethav@pobox.com Eric Thav YYY
etldlcs@etlxdmx.ericsson.se Dan Chalmers YYY
euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke YYY
flufster@world.std.com Felix K. Flaumig NYY
gaillard@panix.com Ed Gaillard NNN
garry@goldhill.demon.co.uk Garry YYY
gary@gdma.com Gary McClellan YYY
geoffr@arcturus.demon.co.uk Geoff Riley YYY
godfrey2@coventry.ac.uk Bill Godfrey Y--
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guldager@daimi.aau.dk Hans Guldager Knudsen YYY
gulli@nett.is Gunnlaugur Jonsson YYY
guttorm.vik@eunet.no Guttorm Vik YYY
guymacon@deltanet.com Guy Macon Y-Y
henry@carltsw.demon.co.uk Henry Morgan YY-
herve.haro@sophia.cnet.fr Haro Herve YYY
hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Hank Fung YYN
hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jim Baranovich --Y
hubersn@lcs.wn.bawue.de Steffen Huber YYY
hughns@dial.pipex.com Hugh Nimmo-Smith YYY
iainlogan@enterprise.net IAIN WILKIE LOGAN YYY
iainvw@enterprise.net Iain Carr YYY
ian@yojoe.demon.co.uk Ian Cripps YYY
imre@cims.nyu.edu Kaya Imre
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J.K.Soutter1@lboro.ac.uk James Soutter NNN
jack@snave.demon.co.uk jack@snave.demon.co.uk (Jack Evans) YYY
jan@sicob.com Giampiero Marcenaro YYY
janus@mail.cwo.com Keith G. Adams YYY
jari@kuhanen.demon.co.uk Jari Nicholas Kuhanen YYY
jason.banham@luton.ac.uk Jason Banham YYY
jasper@navaho.co.uk Jasper Wallace -YY
jcbowling@mindlink.bc.ca Jack Bowling YYY
jdecker@navio.com Joe Decker YYY
jesp@intercable.net Ing. Jeszs Eugenio Sanchez Peqa NYN
jgd@cix.compulink.co.uk John Dallman YYY
jim.nagel@UKonline.co.uk Jim Nagel YYY
Jim.Noble@cambridge.arm.com Jim Noble YYY
Jim@oaknet.demon.co.uk James Gilligan YYY
jjd@primenet.com Jim Davis YYY
jjvdgeer@dds.nl Jan-Jaap van der Geer YYY
jklimm@capecod.net John C. Klimm YYY
jmt@NDA.COM John Twilley YYY
jn@tommy.demon.co.uk John Nissen -YY
joelga@rossix.rossinc.com Joel Garry NNN
johan@netsense.nl Johan Henselmans YYY
john.rix@virgin.net Matthew John Rix YYY
john.shakespeare@vat-vai.valmet.com John Shakespeare YYY
John.Tytgat@barco.com John Tytgat YYY
john@surcombe.demon.co.uk John Surcombe -YY
john@thebeard.demon.co.uk John Robinson YYY
joldak@acorn.co.uk Joe Oldak YYY
jon@oaktree.co.uk Jon Ribbens YYY
jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark NYY
jrcoates@argonet.co.uk Jeremy Coates YYY
js@null.net James Sears YYY
jstaples@replete.demon.co.uk James Staples YYY
julian@bridge.wn.planet.gen.nz Julian Wright YYY
jum@anubis.han.de Jens-Uwe Mager YYY
jwk@sn.no J.William Kay YYY
kamilner@iee.org Keith A. Milner YYY
karromde@nyx.net Ken Arromdee --N
karthy@kom.auc.dk Karsten Thygesen YYY
kbracey@acorn.co.uk Kevin Bracey YYY
kell@locationworks.com Kell Gatherer YYY
kendallj@clear.net.nz Kendall Julian YYY
keven.cook@helios.meganet.co.uk Keven Cook YYY
kfung@bcit.bc.ca Kam Fung YYY
kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn YYY
klingspohr@tu-harburg.d400.de Holger Klingspohr -YY
kukuk@berlin.snafu.de Guenter Kukkukk YYY
l34078@alfa.ist.utl.pt Francisco Amaro YYY
Laurent.Pellissier@ensm-ales.fr Laurent PELLISSIER YYY
lee@ehiltd.dircon.co.uk Lee McGinty YYY
Linton@ukn.com Linton Dawe YYY
Lionel.Fournigault@aar.alcatel-alsthom.fr Lionel Fournigault YYY
lqzkl@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk Ken Levine YYY
lyle@visi.com Lyle Merdan YYY
malcolm@armage.demon.co.uk Malcolm Boura YYY
malcolm@retreat.demon.co.uk Malcolm Cowell YYY
marc@alphapro.demon.co.uk Marc Warne YYY
mark@findon.demon.co.uk Mark Smith YYY
Mark@INnet.be Mark Belien YYY
martin@onyx.dirnet.com Martin Spott NYY
masters@mail.deltanet.com Nathan C. Masters NYY
matth@worldaccess.nl Matt Hendriks YYY
MFerrari@ferrari.it Maurizio Ferrari YYY
mgregory@starbbs.wimsey.com Michael Gregory YYY
mhatz@raven.phs.com Mike Hatz YYY
mirekb@tcs.uni.wroc.pl Mirek Budzanowski YYY
MrDalliard@aol.com Mark Turner NYY
mrison@acorn.co.uk Mark RISON YYY
mseaborn@argonet.co.uk Mark Seaborn YYY
msergio@tin.it Sergio Monesi -YY
msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57 YNY
murphy@cybermail.net Tom Murphy -YY
Nicholas.Clark@liverpool.ac.uk Nicholas Clark YYY
nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman Prefers Shorter Ballots YYY
nickchalk@enterprise.net Nick Chalk YYY
nigel.parker@iee.org Nigel Parker YYY
nigel@c3po.demon.co.uk Nigel Barrett YYY
nigelnolan@scout.net Michael Nolan YYY
nmaj%shire@newcastle.ac.uk M Jackson YYY
nnxoz@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk Zoe Cuff YYY
nnzrik@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk R Kristov YYY
nomo@normanmo.clark.net Norm Moore YYY
nospam@fwb.gulf.net Jules Dubois YYY
ordsmed@post1.tele.dk Denver D. Robinson YYY
oyang@mars.fcit.monash.edu.au Kai O'Yang YYY
Paddy.Spencer@parallax.co.uk Paddy Spencer YYY
parnham@argonet.co.uk Tony Parnham YYY
patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti NNN
patricap@siwash.bc.ca Patrick Purcell YYY
paxil@inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk YYY
pete@stntnbry.demon.co.uk Pete Bradbury YYY
peter@csl.iaf.nl Peter van der Vos YYY
pfoster@deepsouth.co.nz Peter Foster YYY
ph3057@bristol.ac.uk James Holtom YYY
phil@panix.com Phil Gustafson YYY
philh@vision25.demon.co.uk Philip Hunt YYY
phrvn@csv.warwick.ac.uk Nick Kaijaks YYY
pixeleye@sn.no Sveinung W. Tengelsen YYY
pjb27@thor.cam.ac.uk Philip Blundell YYY
PLudlam@epschool.demon.co.uk Philip Ludlam YYY
pnaulls@wave.co.nz Peter Naulls YYY
polaris@ursaminr.demon.co.uk Peter Smith YYY
PT@datcon.co.uk Paul Theobald YYY
Rainer.Duffner@konstanz.netsurf.de Rainer M Duffner YYY
ralph@inputplus.demon.co.uk Ralph Corderoy YYY
rayling@argonet.co.uk Raymond Ling YYY
rbarlow@numedia.demon.co.uk Richard Barlow YYY
rbrowning@acorn.co.uk Richard Browning YYY
Richard.Bradbury@cl.cam.ac.uk Richard J. Bradbury YYY
richsong@vcn.bc.ca Richard Songhurst NYN
rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller YYY
rjb@dcs.gla.ac.uk Richard Black YYY
rjf@mail.sysnet.net.tw RJ Friedman YYY
robert@cauzality.demon.co.uk Robert Munro YYY
Robin.Watts@wss.co.uk Robin Watts YYN
Rogier.Carper@hio.hen.nl Rogier Carper YYY
roses@capecod.net Dolores Scaldini Klimm YYY
rosmanha@pinkinc.com H. Albert Rosman YYN
Roy@tilmun.demon.co.uk R D FELLOWS YYY
rrb@ior.com Bob Blanchard NNN
rss@whanganui.ac.nz Richard Sutherland-Smith YYY
rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus YYY
S.N.Brodie@ecs.soton.ac.uk Stewart Brodie YYY
sal@panix.com Salvatore Denaro NNN
sales@cumsoft.demon.co.uk Ian Walker YYY
Saxon_Shuttleworth@mail.spectrumsignal.com Saxon Shuttleworth YYY
scarter@hticn.com Stephen A. Carter NYY
sce196@ecs.soton.ac.uk Sam Ellis -Y-
schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Georg Schwarz NNN
shibumi@cisco.com Kenton A. Hoover YYY
sholroyd@xemplar.co.uk Steve Holroyd YYY
Simon.Willcocks@octel.com Simon Willcocks YYY
sinclair@cs.brandeis.edu David A. Sinclair YYY
sjst2@hermes.cam.ac.uk Stephen Thornhill YYY
skilling@signal.dra.hmg.gb Adrian Ian Skilling YYY
skycms@rapidnet.com Cyndi Schultz YYY
smvanbruwaene@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca Steve Van Bruwaene YYY
stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown NNN
stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper YYY
steiners@primenet.com Jason Steiner NNN
stephen@kerofin.demon.co.uk Stephen Watson YYY
SteveMac@GoodNet.Com Steve MacGregor YYN
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taweil@ucs.usc.edu taweil YYY
theo@marketto.demon.co.uk Theo Markettos YYY
thomas.hagenloch@student.uni-tuebingen.de Thomas Hagenloch NNY
tijmen@worldonline.nl Tijmen van Gulik YYY
tim.green@dial.pipex.com Tim Green YYY
tim@araneae.demon.co.uk Tim Barrett YYY
Timo.Saarinen@lut.fi Timo Saarinen YYY
tjwh1@mrao.cam.ac.uk Toby Haynes YYY
tknab@nyx.net Terry Knab YYY
tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson NNN
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Tomislav.Vujec@CARNet.hr Tomislav Vujec YYY
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tower@enterprise.net Tom Waller YYY
ttabi@crystal.cirrus.com Timur Tabi YYY
uzs452@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de Johannes Niess YYY
vgreene@amo.com Vincent Greene YYY
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wombat@hof.baynet.de Christian Kohlschuetter YYY
xanthian@well.com Kent Paul Dolan YYY
zed@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming YYY
zot@ampersand.com Mark Atwood YYY
ztfeng@math.Princeton.EDU Thomas Feng YYY
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ajackm@essex.ac.uk Ad
! No ballot
furrball@nym.alias.net furrball
! Invalid address
mcdowell@intecc.co.uk David Mc Dowell
! No ballot
