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Linux-Announce Digest #887

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Digestifier)
Mon Sep 6 23:13:06 2004

From: Digestifier <Linux-Announce-Request@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>
To: Linux-Announce@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Reply-To: Linux-Announce@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu
Date:     Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:13:02 EDT

Linux-Announce Digest #887, Volume #4           Mon, 6 Sep 2004 23:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  RESULT: comp.os.linux.xbox fails 119:32 (Bill Aten)
  LILO version 22.6 released (JohnInSD At san DOT rr dot COM)
  Real Poker v0.2.8 (Marshall Lake)

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From: bill@netagw.com (Bill Aten)
Crossposted-To: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.games.video.xbox,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: RESULT: comp.os.linux.xbox fails 119:32
Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 16:29:14 -0700

                                RESULT
          unmoderated group comp.os.linux.xbox fails 119:32

Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Sep 2004.

This vote was conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about the
proposed group should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Calvin Kim <CalvinKim728@yahoo.com>
Votetaker: Bill Aten <bill@netagw.com>

There were 151 valid YES/NO votes submitted during the voting period.  Each
proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at
least 100 more YES than NO votes.  The results are as follows:

comp.os.linux.xbox results - 151 valid (YES & NO) votes

 Yes   No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
 119   32 :  Yes    No :    No : comp.os.linux.xbox
   7 abstaining votes and 4 invalid votes

The proposal failed.

There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted.
Unless serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are
raised, the proposal may not be voted on again for six months.

The remainder of the RESULT contains:
   Newsgroups Line
   Rationale
   Charter
   Final Voting Acknowledgements

NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.os.linux.xbox      Linux on Xbox.

RATIONALE: comp.os.linux.xbox

Xbox is a home video game console from Microsoft launched in the US in
November of 2001.  Linux is a Unix-like operating system that's been ported
to a variety of platforms, including the Xbox, and currently, there are
several distributions of Linux that run on Xbox, e.g., Debian, Gentoo,
Mandrake, etc.  Once Linux is installed in an Xbox, the Xbox becomes a
fully functional computer.  Linux runs on Xbox legally; no illegal
modifications are needed.

A newsgroup forum would allow users to seek help and assistance from
experienced users.  Developers would also benefit from feed backs.  There
are Linux-specific newsgroups that deal with general Linux interests, but
they're inappropriate for Xbox-related topics, so currently, there are no
newsgroups that can accommodate Linux on Xbox.  The Xbox-related
newsgroups deal specifically with the gaming aspects of Xbox, not running
Linux on Xbox.  The readers of comp.os.linux.xbox will come from the
community of Xbox owners who have interest on running Linux on Xbox.
A newsgroup will allow the community to flourish and develop further.
Currently, we use mailing lists and poorly maintained web forums, but once
we have our own newsgroup, through google newsgroups, our postings will be
more reliable, convenient, and may be archived for search functions.

CHARTER: comp.os.linux.xbox

This newsgroup, comp.os.linux.xbox, is dedicated to enthusiasts to discuss
running Linux on the Microsoft Xbox console.

Topics such as, but not limited to, the following are considered
acceptable:
- Running Linux on Xbox.
- Development of Linux on Xbox.
- Suggestions for Linux on Xbox.
- Ask for help and assistance on running Linux on Xbox.

Except for PGP and similar small signatures, please refrain from posting
large binaries.

END CHARTER.

FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

comp.os.linux.xbox - Final Voter List

NOTE: This is not [to be used as] a mailing list.  The email addresses
are provided only to help verify the validity of the interest poll.

Voted YES
==============================================================================
al-mazroa [at] maktoob.com                                     Adnan Al-Mazroa
alfredo [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                Alfredo Stromboli
amu [at] alum.mit.edu                                            Aaron M. Ucko
andrew.cassese [at] nerds.zzn.com                               Andrew Cassese
armstrong [at] tidni.com                                      Curtis Armstrong
art [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                     Arturo Stromboli
aussiebloke [at] emailbox.com.au                                  Nathan Musco
beaniemack [at] linuxmail.org                                    Lorne Wandell
beetlejews [at] gamebox.net                                      Jordan Knight
bigdan [at] gmail.com                                           Dan Vande More
bloodyscott [at] uku.co.uk                                        Scott Keller
bobbycarradine [at] hotmail.com                               Robert Carradine
borton [at] phys.ethz.ch                                           Thom Borton
bouvin [at] daimi.au.dk                                      Niels Olof Bouvin
boycrazyfaggot [at] backstreetboysclub.com                       Maurice Queen
bradley3346 [at] lycos.com                                    Bradley Whitford
btochi [at] graffiti.net                                           Brian Tochi
bunghole53 [at] lycos.com                                           Lucia Vega
calvinkim728 [at] yahoo.com                                         Calvin Kim
canadafisherman [at] canada.com                                  David G. Roth
chonglai_188 [at] hotmail.com                                        Chong Lai
chris [at] txbarnes.com                                           Chris Barnes
chrisk [at] cknoke.de                                          Christian Knoke
chriskrolczyk [at] hotmail.com                                  Chris Krolczyk
colli [at] egine.com                                               Mike Collio
cubalibgr [at] hotmail.com                                        Fidel Rhodes
d.zbornak [at] europe.com                                      Dorothy Zbornak
dannyboy5401 [at] hotmail.com                                       Danny Wood
dave [at] technopagan.org                                       David E. Smith
de5-dated-1093896430.42aa61 [at] sws5.ornl.gov                       Dave Sill
demetrius.s [at] zuvio.com                                    Demetrius Stamos
devereaux [at] atlas.cz                                      Blanche Devereaux
devnull [at] vianet.ca                                          Trevor Tymchuk
dimitri.t [at] atlas.cz                                      Dimitri Cestovani
dmp [at] davidmpye.dyndns.org                                        David Pye
dolphinsfan [at] mysiestakey.com                                  Joseph Botte
Ekkehard [at] Uthke.de                                          Ekkehard Uthke
enrico [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                  Enrico Stromboli
eriratrbsgurareqf [at] lycos.com                                  Alice Hirson
etovekaf [at] emailpinoy.com                                  Tristan Etovekaf
falk [at] surfy.net                                                   Gus Falk
fr33z3 [at] fr33z3.org                                         Christoph Gysin
fred [at] bytesforall.org                                    Frederick Noronha
gadfly [at] mail2peter.com                                        Peter J Ross
gilbertgrape [at] worldbreak.com                               Anthony Edwards
gortician [at] neworleansradio.zzn.com                        Jason Z Christie
hawleyc602 [at] earthlink.net                            Christopher J. Hawley
Heidi.Karp [at] gmx.de                                              Heidi Karp
hernandez [at] puertorico.zzn.com                               Nina Hernandez
hothelen3 [at] lycos.com                                          Helen Willis
hugo [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Hugo Stromboli
ibgrsenhq [at] netscape.net                                    Pedro Alejandro
jada [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Jada Stromboli
jeb [at] prweb.com                                                   Jeb Simon
Jk2 [at] DiverOne.com                                               Jon Knight
Jo.Bo [at] gmx.de                                               Juergen Bethke
joe [at] jolomo.net                                                 Joe Morris
joey [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Joey Stromboli
johnforbes [at] strompost.biz                                      John Forbes
joniscohen [at] hotmail.com                                        Jonis Cohen
josiebambina [at] vietnam.com                                      Josie Lauer
juannelasa [at] lycos.com                                            Juan Vega
julie.montgomery [at] emailbox.com.au                         Julie Montgomery
julionostra [at] bigfoot.com                                      Julio Nostra
junior [at] stromboli.uni.cc                             Enzo Stromboli Junior
keithh [at] hanlan.ca                                             Keith Hanlan
keithlexington [at] netscape.net                               Keith Lexington
larry.b.scott [at] linuxmail.org                                 Larry B Scott
leo [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                        Leo Stromboli
mabelking [at] techemail.com                                        Mabel King
macosx [at] osxmail.com                                       Grant Washington
mario [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                    Mario Stromboli
martens386 [at] hotmail.com                                       Hans Martens
martha [at] CanadianBiotech.com                                   Martha Moore
McIntyre [at] irishnation.com                                    Joe McIntyre
michal [at] rosa.id.au                                             Michal Rosa
mullins [at] psychology.zzn.com                                   Biff Mullins
nafig_blin [at] hotmail.com                                      Eduard Petrov
nds [at] mad.scientist.com                                        Louis Browne
neil [at] suespammers.org                                           Neil Woods
NylundRos [at] netscape.net                                        Rose Nylund
ogre [at] wigglestick.net                                          Donald Gibb
patrick [at] teamsandwich.ca                                     Patrick Bragg
pelel [at] pelel.cjb.net                                          Troy Ekamper
petrillo [at] antihotmail.com                                  Sophia Petrillo
pissmeister [at] ml1.net                                             Sal Gallo
porto_930 [at] hotmail.com                                   Jessica Portolano
psmyth [at] gmx.net                                                Peter Smyth
pwz [at] vajraguru.com                                               Paul Zoda
rmarsha8 [at] csc.com                                          Robert Marshall
rob [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                    Roberto Stromboli
rosa [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Rosa Stromboli
sallyparker [at] girl.com.au                                      Sally Parker
sam.du [at] gayfellows.zzn.com                                        Sam Dunn
santa [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                    Santa Stromboli
sara.brady [at] scenta.co.uk                                        Sara Brady
sbetrqonyybg [at] linuxmail.org                                       Ana Sbet
sbk3cr202 [at] sneakemail.com                                     David Strum
schlatterbeck [at] tttech.com                               Ralf Schlatterbeck
sean [at] kormilo.ca                                              Sean Kormilo
simon [at] limmat.switch.ch                                       Simon Leinen
smlucas [at] flashmail.com                                        Steven Lucas
sofie.j [at] dutchcommerce.zzn.com                                Sofie Jansen
stefano.ghirlanda [at] unibo.it                              Stefano Ghirlanda
tas [at] virginia.edu                                         Thomas Spraggins
taylor [at] egine.com                                       Jennifer C Taylor
ted [at] stan.zzn.com                                             Ted McGinley
timbusfield [at] netscape.net                                     Tim Busfield
tomaszn7263 [at] lycos.com                                   Tomasz Brzezinski
tony [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Tony Stromboli
transplantedkiwi [at] ausi.com                                 Pete Douglaston
ulyssespaige [at] lycos.com                                      Ulysses Paige
victheflick2 [at] hotmail.com                                     Victor Jones
vpdura [at] hiwaay.net                                                Vic Dura
wahlberg [at] operamail.com                                      Mark Wahlberg
wohl [at] omnilect.com                                              David Wohl
zbgb [at] hotmail.com                                         Georges LaRouche
zeke [at] hawaiicity.com                                         Zeke Williams
zo3t5bm02 [at] sneakemail.com                                    Jules Dubois

Voted NO
==============================================================================
animal.mother [at] noan.net                                       Adam Baldwin
david [at] farrar.com                                             David Farrar
dodcopman [at] myway.com                                       Robert Douglass
e56h3h702 [at] sneakemail.com                              sylvan 'sdb' butler
francione [at] hsuchi.net                                   Tan Hung Francione
fullmetaljacket [at] joker.zzn.com                              Matthew Modine
g [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Giorgio Stromboli
gilkopel [at] lycos.com                                              Gil Kopel
gina [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                      Gina Stromboli
gmills [at] mail2power.com                                   Gary Landon Mills
gprrspw [at] mindspring.com                                          G.P. Ryan
gunnerysgt8 [at] hotmail.com                                      R. Lee Ermey
harewood [at] operamail.com                                    Dorian Harewood
jesp [at] hotvoice.com                                         Eugenio Sanchez
kieron [at] jislaaik.com                                      Kieron Jecchinis
kookykev [at] hotmail.com                                      Kevyn M. Howard
leannahong [at] hotmail.com                                        Leanna Hong
mauicop [at] hawaii-politics.com                                       mauicop
montch [at] aracnet.com                                     Matthew Montchalin
pan [at] syix.com                                                          Pan
private_cowboy [at] texasaggie.com                               Arliss Howard
reply-to [at] alexander.skwar.name                             Alexander Skwar
rick [at] bcm.tmc.edu                                         Richard H Miller
robert.mcclenon [at] verizon.net                               Robert McClenon
snowballer [at] canada.com                                        Peter Edmund
soosoo12 [at] lycos.com                                       Papillon Soo Soo
stafford [at] thecricket.co.za                                    Jon Stafford
stainles [at] realtime.net                                        Dwight Brown
touchdown80 [at] hotmail.com                                         Ed O'Ross
tvjournalist [at] operamail.com                                  Peter Merrill
vinny.d [at] email.it                                        Vincent D'Onofrio
wrbegley [at] sympatico.ca                                      Richard Begley

Voted ABSTAIN
==============================================================================
ceri [at] submonkey.net                                            Ceri Davies
e [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                   Elisabetta Stromboli
enzo [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                  Enzo Stromboli Sr.
fungus [at] OCF.Berkeley.EDU                                         Hank Fung
kmorgan [at] spamcop.net                                       Kathy I. Morgan
olivia [at] stromboli.uni.cc                                  Olivia Stromboli
van.ette [at] inter.nl.net                                 Robert-Jan van Ette

Invalid Votes
==============================================================================
avenger [at] mail.africa.purplecow.org
   ! No name given
bsd [at] cto.homelinux.net                             Balwinder Singh Dheeman
   ! Ack bounced: No route to host
daniel [at] zworykin.elec.uow.edu.au                        Daniel R. Franklin
   ! Ack bounced: Connection refused
wahlberg [at] cashette.com                                        Don Wahlberg
   ! Ack bounced: Rejected as spam

-- 
Bill Aten, UVV <bill@netagw.com>

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:07:50 CST
From: JohnInSD At san DOT rr dot COM <bitbucket@hotmail.com>
Subject: LILO version 22.6 released
Reply-To: Read.MY.fullname@TO.reply

LILO release 22.6 is based upon Werner Almesberger's LILO version 21.

Version 22.6 is a minor update to version 22.5.9

o  Add keyword "unattended" for noisy serial line boot consoles.
o  Provide for compilation on 64-bit Linux (IA-64).
o  Remove NASM dependency for compilation.
o  Allow "root=" to use "LABEL=name" syntax.
o  Add local image descriptor keyword "addappend=".
o  Provide for servers with more than 16 hard disks.


Version 22.5.9 is a minor update to version 22.5.8

o  Add "bmp-retain" keyword for those using splash screens at startup.
o  Binary distribution adds a statically linked copy of LILO.
o  Bugfix for duplicated volume IDs at boot-time; adding a disk often
resulted in a "Timestamp mismatch" panic stop.


Version 22.5.8 is a minor update to version 22.5.7.2

o  Add keyword "max-partitions" for developers of new disk drivers.
o  Fix -r flag so that /proc/partitions is opened before the chroot.
o  Volume ID disk scan bypasses disks marked "inaccessible".


Version 22.5.7.2 is a minor update to version 22.5.7

o  Fix fatal bug on 'devfs' systems with multiple SCSI drives


Version 22.5.7 is a minor update to version 22.5.6

o  Include several accumulated updates to prior version.
o  New first stage loader so actual VIDEO ENABLE is done; no more FF.


Version 22.5.6 is a bugfix update to version 22.5.5

o  Cranky raid installation is fixed; i.e., all spurious error messages are
gone.
o  Certain raid1 installations (skewed) now boot properly when a disk fails.
This
   bug affects releases back to 22.5.


Version 22.5.5 is a minor update to version 22.5.4

o  Improve 'mkrescue' --iso option with 'el-torito-bootable-cd' flag
o  '-M' switch gives option of 'mbr' or 'ext' loaders; latter will boot
   from extended partitions
o  '-A' switch recognizes 'ext' loader, and allows activating extended part.
o  Chain loader begins with memory map from second stage; also can merge
   mapped drives into the drive map; never more than one EBDA drive mapper


Version 22.5.4 is a minor update to version 22.5.3

o  Bugs in caching algorithm fixed.  With no BIOS data check, IDE drives
   are correctly assigned before SCSI drives.  Volume ID check corrected.
o  Compilation option SUSPEND, for optional booting from a suspend
   partition using 'vmdefault='.  This is disabled in the standard release.
o  Updated 'mkrescue' will produce a bootable diskette without a prior
   LILO boot.  Plus '--iso' option will produce a bootable CD image.


Version 22.5.3 is a minor update to version 22.5.2

o  Handle kernels with DEVFS_FS compiled in, but 'devfs' not mounted and
   not supported by the existing /dev directory hierarchy.


Version 22.5.2 is a minor update to version 22.5.1

o  Handles reiser4 filesystem
o  Bugfixes: raid-extra-boot=/dev/XXX where XXX is outside the raid set,
   bootloader get number of hard drives
o  -M switch creates backup files of sectors (-s and -S switches)


Version 22.5.1 is a minor update to version 22.5

o  Writearounds are included for two BIOS bugs which could kill 22.5:
   - Video BIOS destroy's DX register
   - BIOS does not pass boot device code in DL
o  Boot sector backups are handled in a more consistent fashion.
o  Optional configuration file keywords are added:  master-boot, boot-as=,
   raid-extra-boot=mbr, bios-passes-dl= (or -Z switch).


Version 22.5 is a major update to version 22.4.1

o  Booting is based upon industry-standard volume labels (s/n), which are
   translated to BIOS device codes.  Changes in the disk configuration
   which cause the BIOS to assign device codes in a different order should
   be transparent to the user.
o  256-color bitmap boot screens are now supported using VESA video BIOS
   extensions.  Both RGB and RLE encoded  *.bmp  files are supported.



Versions 22.4, 22.3, 22.2, 22.1, 22.0 are major updates to version 21.


*** THE VERSION 22 RAID1 IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH VERSION 21.

Those using version 21 should read 'README.raid1' before installing these
new codes.  There is a compatibility mode (lilo -x mbr-only) for existing
RAID1 installations which are not going to be converted to the Version 22
implementation.


Source code is available for download from:

  http://lilo.go.dyndns.org/pub/linux/lilo            (developer's site)

Or from the main distribution site:

  ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo    (please use)


See the distribution file 'CHANGES' for details of the differences between
22.6 and prior releases.


--John Coffman <johninsd at san dot rr dot com>

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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 22:07:53 CST
From: Marshall Lake <mlake@NS.mlake.net>
Subject: Real Poker v0.2.8

Real Poker v0.2.8 is available.

Changes:
  added working traits to robot players -
    robot can adjust play to number of players in game
    robot can adjust play to position at table
  Info->Help now works
  changed installation organization
  redid user manual
  new format for the Player Library
  added type of simulation allowing user to fill in cards
  implemented deal rotating for simulations
  numerous minor improvements
  numerous minor bug fixes

Download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/realpoker

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