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Linux-Announce Digest #819, Volume #4 Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:13:05 EDT
Contents:
The new Linux Gazette is out! ("Benjamin A. Okopnik")
RE COMMERCIAL: 1U Celeron 1.3Ghz lowest cost server (sales)
Indlinux Newsletter Issue 4 ("Frederick Noronha (FN)")
<incom> FOSS in Latin America - Preliminary Research (fwd) ("Frederick Noronha (FN)")
[SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings (paulf)
[ADMIN] comp.os.linux.announce report for Mon Jul 5 00:05:01 CDT 2004 (cola-admin@stump.algebra.com)
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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:24:31 CST
Subject: The new Linux Gazette is out!
From: "Benjamin A. Okopnik" <ben@callahans.org>
Issue 104 of Linux Gazette is ready for viewing and download at
http://linuxgazette.net/
Contents:
* The Mailbag
* More 2 Cent Tips!
* The Answer Gang
* News Bytes, by Michael Conry
* Using Wind0ws Keyboard Media Buttons In Linux, by Tom Brown
* Ecol, by Javier Malonda
* How To Make a StereoGram with GIMP, Blender and StereoGraph, by Kapil Hari Paranjape
* Automatic Backups with rsync and Anacron, by Barry O'Donovan
* Songs in the Key of Tux: Audacity, by Jimmy O'Regan
* Desktop Matters!: A guide to Wind0ws technologies for Linux users, by Jimmy O'Regan
* Front and Back: KPGP and GPG, by Jimmy O'Regan
* Qubism, by Jon "Sir Flakey" Harsem
* Inter-Process Communication - Part 1, by Hiran Ramankutty
* Design Awareness, by Mark Seymour
* Taking control of your browsing with Mozilla, by Neil Youngman
* Wonderful World of Spam
* The Linux Laundrette
* The Foolish Things We Do With Our Computers, by Ben Okopnik
Linux Gazette is a reader-supported monthly ezine dedicated to two simple
ideas: making Linux a little more fun, and sharing ideas and discoveries.
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From: sales <sales@storeanywhere.com>
Subject: RE COMMERCIAL: 1U Celeron 1.3Ghz lowest cost server
Date: 4 Jul 2004 21:30:01 GMT
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From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: Indlinux Newsletter Issue 4
Date: 4 Jul 2004 21:35:01 GMT
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 11:26:40 +0530
From: "Pramod.R" <pramodleo@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Indlinux Newsletter Issue 4
Also available at:
http://indlinux.org/newsletter/4.html
!!Localization Newsletter Issue 4, Vol 1 (01 July 2004)
!Editor speak
The Indic Localization Newsletter is now four issues old. One of the
enduring themes of this effort has been a greater interaction with the
community and an increased amount of collaboration. Collaboration is
what we believe is the enduring driving force of Free/Libre Open Source
Software. L10n teams collaborate, community and industry collaborate,
communities-industry-government talk to get in implementations of work
done. The operative word here is 'implementation'.
The L10n efforts across the country are mature and at a stage where the
Project Roadmap is well laid out. We have had a number of LiveCDs being
conceived. The next step would be to take it towards a logical
conclusion. L10n efforts are citizen-centric and deployment oriented.
Thus we should take a good long look at domain-centric implementation.
Identify the vertical domains and map out application specific areas
where L10n can be immediately put into action. We need to do this
perhaps in the form of some loosely structured consortia where the
Government and the Industry are also the stakeholders.
The era of LiveCD is over - long live the LiveCD.
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!News Bits
!News from the Unicode consortium
!Common Locale Data Repository moves to Unicode
The Unicode) Consortium has announced the release of new versions of
the Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR 1.1) and the Locale Data Markup
Language specification (LDML 1.1), providing key building blocks for
software to support the world's languages. This new release contains
data for 247 locales, covering 78 languages and 118 countries. There are
also 36 draft locales in the process of being developed, covering an
additional 17 languages and 7 countries.
For more information visit CLDR homepage at http://www.unicode.org/cldr
!Unicode Consortium to decide on changes to Bengali encoding proposals
The Unicode consortium will be meeting this week, and among the long
list on the agenda is the issue of allotting a separate code point for
the Bengali Khanda-ta.
Meanwhile, it has been pointed out that even if the proposal is
accepted, implementing it will take at least two years, and till
then, the computing community needs to arrive at a consensus on how
to encode the khanda-ta. The combinations under discussion are :-
(ta, virama, zwj)
(ta, virama, zwj, zwnj)
The issue is very sensitive for the Bangla community, who, like all
people, hold their dear language close to their hearts. Discussions on
the issue has raised much heat and smoke, that Saraswati* (the mailing
list administrator for <indic at unicode dot org> mailing list) has put
the list on moderation.
(*) Before you jump into any conclusion, Saraswati is the name of a
machine, and not a person.
!Adding a new Indic Language - Tulu
There has been some loud thinking by Dr. U. B. Pavanaja in one of the
Unicode forums, that Tulu, one of the ancient languages spoken mostly on
the South-West coast of the Indian peninsula, should find a place in
the Unicode standard. Raghavendra Bhat, a Tulu speaker and free
software advocate, has supported the proposal, and moves are afoot to
gather more information to put forward a concrete proposal to the
Unicode consortium.
Interested people should get in touch either with Dr. Pavanaja
<pavanaja at vishvakannada dot com> or Raghavendra Bhat, <ragu at vsnl
dot com>.
!Two new GTK Input Modules for Bangla
Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu randomink org> has announced ImBeng
Reloaded - a set of two new GTK input modules for Bangla. One of them
follows the Inscript layout, while the other follows the Probhat semi
phonetic layout. Details at
http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/index.php?p=68 .
!Volunteers/Beta Testers requested for Product Feedback
NeoLinux Solutions http://neolinuxsolutions.com is looking for
Volunteers/Beta Testers who are willing to try out the Indic Components
released by the Company. Contact Animesh <animesh at neolinuxsolutions.com>
!Ravikant announces the availability of [Bolnagri] Phonetic layout
The last newsletter announced a phonetic keyboard. The fact is that the
keyboard is now ready for use, improvement and further suggestions.
Download it from : http://indlinux.org/downloads/files/bolnagri.tar.gz
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!Team Watch
The present Kannada team:
# Let's begin with the URL of the project and Screenshots.
*URLs
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/ - Project Home page
* http://sourceforge.net/projects/kannada - Sourceforge Project page
*Screen shots
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/openoffice.org/screenshots -
OpenOffice.org Screenshots
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/gnome-screens/screenshots.html -
Gnome Screenshots
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/mozilla-with-pango.png - Mozilla
rendering Kannada
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/xfce-panel-kannada.png - XFCE in
Kannada
* http://kannada.sourceforge.net/kde-preview - KDE with QT 3.2.0
screenshots
# Why did this L10n start? What was the motive behind this?
hpnadig: The project started with an aim to help localize free
software in Kannada, initially targetting, but not limited to kde and gnome.
# What are the visions & objectives of the project?
pramod: Besides the initial aim of translating Gnome, KDE, XFCE,
OpenOffice.org, Mozilla & other FLOSS applications, our objective
includes making sure the rendering, input, sorting, etc., works to
user's expectations. Long term vision includes more people use and
deploy the work, more applications gets translated and localized.
Another long-term objective is to work towards a greater presence of
Kannada in the public domain, say having the Kannada equivalents of
wikipedia/Gutenberg.
# What is the current status of the Project?
pramod: We have completed nearly 5% of Gnome 2.8, 60-70% of
OpenOffice.org 1.1.2, which except for the OpenOffice bit looks quite
bare. But speaking of current status of Kannada on Linux, we do have one
font under GPL, two keyboard layouts - one inscript & one semi-phonetic
(nudi).(The latter needs IIIMF).
# Who would volunteer for the project? What is the desired profile? Does
the project need more volunteers?
pramod: Anyone who is interested in contributing his bit to Kannada,
be it translating the software, documentation or any content or hacking
on Kannada related stuff is welcome. The project definitely needs
volunteers who are committed and are in for the long run.
# What are the plans in future with this L10n?
hpnadig: The future plans include completion of localization for
gnome2.6, evolution, KDE 3.2 and many other free software that are on
the community work desk.
pramod: More translations, fixing basic issues with rendering, getting
more OpenType fonts, getting a decent phonetic keyboard and hope to see
the project stabilize instead of the high & low peak of activities we
are seeing now.
# How is the funding being managed?
pramod: Except for the work on OpenOffice.org, rest of the work did
not receive any funding. My personal opinion is funding is needed more
for translators rather than developers, since the former are rare and
translation is quite a thankless job.
# What are the problems faced by the L10n project(Both technical and
otherwise eg. Pango, OOo etc)?
pramod: There still is plenty of work to be done both in translations
and we barely would have progressed much if not for the ~OpenOffice.org
translations which were done by Kannada Ganaka Parishath. We hope to use
OO.o's translations for Gnome, KDE & Mozilla. Rendering has improved in
both GTK & QT, except for some minor quirks with GTK's deletion
handling & some minor font issues.
# Indic L10n suffer from common technical problems - are you in touch
with other groups that are doing L10n?
pramod: Yes, We do follow the progress of other language teams and
observe their processes.
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!Help ..F1
!Debian installer to support bi-directional scripts
It has been announced in Debian i18n list that the current version of
the Debian installer supports bi-directional scripts like Farsi,
Hebrew, and Arabic using libfribidi. This means that the support for
Indic scripts is possible and somebody has to do the footwork.
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From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: <incom> FOSS in Latin America - Preliminary Research (fwd)
Date: 4 Jul 2004 21:45:04 GMT
========== Forwarded message ==========
I'm trying to compile a list of projects, organizations and people
who are working on Free and Open Source (FOSS) projects in the Latin
America and Caribbean (LAC) region for a research project that I am
involved in.
If you have time, i'd very much appreciate you completing the short
form below and sending it back to me.
The results of this informal survey will be added to the results of
the consultation which was done with a small number of Latin American
NGOs at the 5th International Forum of Software Libre this past June
in Porto Alegre Brazil .
I look forward to your comments.
Kindest regards,
Robert Guerra
#### FOSS Projects in LAC - Short Questionnaire ###
Name / Organization:
Location : (region/city/country)
Activities: Focus and/or aim of project
Geographic Scope: location where project is taking place in LAC region
Contact Person(s):
URL:
*** Please email your replies to :
rguerra@privaterra.org
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Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 18:06:07 CST
Subject: [SLUG] Suncoast LUG Meetings
From: paulf@quillandmouse.com (paulf)
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* Suncoast Linux Users Group (SLUG) *
* Meeting Schedule *
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TAMPA ****************************************************
14 July 19:00-21:00 Tampa
(second Wednesday of each month)
***** NOTE ROOM CHANGE *****
Student Services Bldg, Room 110
(to the east of the Technology Bldg)
***** NOTE ROOM CHANGE *****
Hillsborough Community College
Dale Mabry Campus
4001 Tampa Bay Blvd
Tampa, FL
See http://www.hccfl.edu/pollock/Docs/DM-Map.htm for directions.
SARASOTA/BRADENTON ***************************************
21 July 18:00-21:00 Sarasota
(third Wednesday of each month)
Honeywell
8323 Lindbergh Court
Sarasota, FL
See http://www.bish.net/directions/
DUNEDIN **************************************************
24 July 10:00-12:00 Dunedin
(usually fourth Saturday of each month)
Dunedin Public Library,
223 Douglas Ave.,
Community Room B.
Dunedin, FL
See http://www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html#dunedin for directions.
ST PETERSBURG ********************************************
26 July 19:00-21:00 St Petersburg
(usually last Monday of each month)
St Petersburg Public Library, Main Branch
Auditorium
3745 Ninth Ave North
St Petersburg, FL 33713
727-893-7724
See http://www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html#stpete for directions.
BRANDON **************************************************
5 August 20:00-22:00 Brandon
(first Thursday of each month)
Brandon Barnes & Noble
Brandon Town Center
Brandon, FL
See http://www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html#Brandon for directions.
NEW PORT RICHEY ******************************************
7 August 13:00-15:00 New Port Richey
(first Saturday of each month)
New Port Richey Public Library
(second level meeting rooms)
5939 Main St.
New Port Richey, FL
See http://www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html#npr for directions.
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ACTIVITIES:
Meetings include:
1) Presentation: As indicated.
2) Question & Answer Session.
3) Raffle and free stuff!
Bring your boxes, questions, problems, and plenty of good cheer!
(And don't forget to start your installs early!)
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 00:06:06 CST
Subject: [ADMIN] comp.os.linux.announce report for Mon Jul 5 00:05:01 CDT 2004
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