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Linux-Announce Digest #757

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Sat May 1 19:13:08 2004

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Linux-Announce Digest #757, Volume #4           Sat, 1 May 2004 19:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  [HUMBUG] Next Meeting - 8th May 2004 (Mark Suter)
  we could have prevented it (Big Oaks Buick Pontiac GMC, Inc)
  we could have prevented it (Jeff Krimmel)

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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 21:00:23 CST
From: Mark Suter <suter@zwitterion.humbug.org.au>
Subject: [HUMBUG] Next Meeting - 8th May 2004

The Home Unix Machine Brisbane Users Group exists to get fellow
Unix users in contact with each other, to introduce people to
Unix and Unix-like operating systems, and to help users in
operating those systems.  Everyone is welcome to attend.

Meetings tend to be informal.  We socialize, discuss Unix and
computing, solve Unix problems for new and experienced users
alike and, these days, have regular talks.

Date:   Saturday, 8th May 2004 (every second Saturday)

Time:   From 3pm with the network up 30 minutes after we are
        granted entry.  The network will be brought down after
        midnight to allow time to clean up for a 1am exit.

Venue:  Room S201, Hawken Engineering Building (no. 50)
        The University of Queensland, St Lucia Campus

        Car parking is currently unregulated on Saturdays.  The
        University is serviced by public transport with frequent
        buses during University terms.  For more information:

        http://www.uq.edu.au/about/index.html?page=1070
        http://www.uq.edu.au/maps/index.phtml?menu=1&z=1&id=25

Cost:   Membership until our AGM in September is $20, but no one
        has to join unless they are going to use club services
        such as our network access during meetings.

Talks:  Information on upcoming talks is announced separately.
        For information on talks see the announcements by our
        Talks Maintainer on the announce mailing list.

Food:   The eating places (ranging from take away to a la Carte)
        at 'The Ville' are usually open until about 10pm Saturday
        night.  There is also the Pizza Cafe on campus near the
        Schonell Theater:

        http://www.schonell.uq.edu.au/pizza_caffe.html
        http://www.uq.edu.au/maps/index.phtml?menu=1&z=1&id=11

Drinks: Various soft drinks and snacks are available from the
        three vending machines located immediately outside the
        room.  Remember to bring change!

For more information on club meetings and HUMBUG itself see our
web page at http://www.humbug.org.au/ or email me directly.

Humbug President

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From: Big Oaks Buick Pontiac GMC, Inc <bigoaks@verizon.net>
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.tammy-tanner,misc.activism.anti-fascism.announce,gov.us.fed.dot.faa.announce
Subject: we could have prevented it
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 18:39:05 GMT

The Bush-Clinton Administrations Had Enough Information Before 9/11 to
Prevent Aircraft from Becoming Missiles 

Washington, DC: 

Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader today urged the 9/11
Commission to highlight the failure of the Bush and Clinton
Administrations to take action to re-enforce the doors of aircraft
cockpits noting: "This single safety step could have thwarted the events
of September 11." 

On April 8, when Condolezza Rice testified before the Commission
Investigating September 11, she acknowledged that hardening the cockpits
could have made a difference: "That would have made a difference. We
weren't going to harden cockpits in the three months that we had a
threat spike." 

In fact, the US government had more than enough information prior to the
information generated in the months prior to 9/11 to have taken action
to re-enforce cockpit doors to thwart hijackers and terrorists. In
addition to official intelligence scenarios about the potential for
hijacked planes being used in terrorist attacks in the US against
buildings, there have been 167 hijackings involving US airlines and 11
hijackings involving foreign airlines on US soil since 1970. 

"It has been evident for decades that we needed to harden cockpit doors
and strengthen their latches. Some foreign airlines have installed just
that safeguard. The failure of the federal government for years to
address this despite clear evidence of the need is a tribute to how our
government has deregulated mechanisms for national security. The
resistance by airlines and aircraft manufacturers sent the soporific FAA
into inaction, despite long time requests for action by safety groups
and aviation security experts. If our government, sometime over the last
30 years, had been responsive, this single act would have made it much
more difficult for the terrorism of 9/11 to have succeeded in turning
aircrafts into missiles." said Ralph Nader. "The 9/11 Commission, before
its final report, needs to research this situation and come to a
judgment about the reasons for failing to protect airline passengers and
persons on the ground." 

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From: Jeff Krimmel <mad_scientist03@hotmail.com>
Crossposted-To: fj.education.announce,alt.jealous.juvenile.jerkoffs.with.no.woman.martin-hannigan,hannet.tools.d
Subject: we could have prevented it
Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 22:00:37 GMT

The Bush-Clinton Administrations Had Enough Information Before 9/11 to
Prevent Aircraft from Becoming Missiles 

Washington, DC: 

Independent Presidential Candidate Ralph Nader today urged the 9/11
Commission to highlight the failure of the Bush and Clinton
Administrations to take action to re-enforce the doors of aircraft
cockpits noting: "This single safety step could have thwarted the events
of September 11." 

On April 8, when Condolezza Rice testified before the Commission
Investigating September 11, she acknowledged that hardening the cockpits
could have made a difference: "That would have made a difference. We
weren't going to harden cockpits in the three months that we had a
threat spike." 

In fact, the US government had more than enough information prior to the
information generated in the months prior to 9/11 to have taken action
to re-enforce cockpit doors to thwart hijackers and terrorists. In
addition to official intelligence scenarios about the potential for
hijacked planes being used in terrorist attacks in the US against
buildings, there have been 167 hijackings involving US airlines and 11
hijackings involving foreign airlines on US soil since 1970. 

"It has been evident for decades that we needed to harden cockpit doors
and strengthen their latches. Some foreign airlines have installed just
that safeguard. The failure of the federal government for years to
address this despite clear evidence of the need is a tribute to how our
government has deregulated mechanisms for national security. The
resistance by airlines and aircraft manufacturers sent the soporific FAA
into inaction, despite long time requests for action by safety groups
and aviation security experts. If our government, sometime over the last
30 years, had been responsive, this single act would have made it much
more difficult for the terrorism of 9/11 to have succeeded in turning
aircrafts into missiles." said Ralph Nader. "The 9/11 Commission, before
its final report, needs to research this situation and come to a
judgment about the reasons for failing to protect airline passengers and
persons on the ground." 

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