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Contents:
[ADMIN] comp.os.linux.announce report for Mon Nov 5 00:05:00 CST 2001 (cola-admin@stump.algebra.com)
Suncoast LUG Meeting Announcement (Ed Centanni)
[LOCAL] Antwerpen: C&T Linux Gebruikers Groep (Guy Geens)
aewm++-1.0.11 has been released (Frank Hale)
Commercial: Linux System Administration Bootcamp W/Free Laptop! (Rajesh Goyal)
Ann: C interpreter for GTK+ and X11/Motif is available now ("one2001boy@yahoo.com")
Kudos (Joe Bouchard)
good GNUs (gnu_bob)
SOLUTION: lilo awol on win/lin dual-boot, boot disk gives kernel panic (Serge Levert)
www: Mstation aka Linux MusicStation new things (jlittler@mstation.org)
Pipenightdreams 0.9.0 (Baraldi)
Guikachu 0.98.0 "Downloadimashou": GNOME Resource editor for PalmOS (ERDI Gergo)
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From: Ed Centanni <ecentan1@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Suncoast LUG Meeting Announcement
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:12 CST
WHEN AND WHERE:
14 November 19:00-21:00 Tampa
(second Wednesday of each month)
PricewaterhouseCoopers -- Room 684
3109 W. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, Blvd
Lakepointe I Building
Tampa, FL 33607
See the SLUG website (www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html) for
directions.
15 November 19:00-21:00 Brandon II
(third Thursday of each month)
Computer Advantage Store
217 Brandon Town Center Drive
Brandon, FL
Across the street from Barnes & Noble, next to Target and Honey
Baked Hams. See the SLUG website
(www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html) for directions.
27 November 19:00-21:00 Sarasota
(fourth Tuesday of each month)
Certification, Inc.
2033 Wood Street Suite 220
Sarasota, FL 34237
See the SLUG website (www.suncoastlug.org/meetings.html) for
directions.
24 November 09:30-12:00 Dunedin
(fourth Saturday of each month)
Dunedin Public Library,
223 Douglas Ave.,
Community Room A.
Dunedin
1 December 13:00-15:00 New Port Richey
(first Saturday of each month)
New Port Richey Public Library
(second level meeting rooms)
5939 Main St.
New Port Richey
6 December 20:00-22:00 Brandon
(first Thursday of each month)
Brandon Barnes & Noble
Brandon Town Center Brandon, FL
Take I-4 East to I-75 South. Go south on 75 to the second exit
(Hwy 60, Exit 53). Head left (east) under the overpass, and
make sure you're in the right lane. When you go to the
entrance for Brandon Town Center, you'll see Barnes & Noble
on your immediate right.
ACTIVITIES:
Meetings include:
1) Presentations: to be announced
2) Question & Answer Session.
3) Raffle and free stuff!
Bring your boxes, questions, problems, and plenty of good cheer!
(And don't forget to start your installs early!)
FOLLOWING MEETINGS:
12 December 19:00-21:00 Tampa
(second Wednesday of each month)
20 December 19:00-21:00 Brandon II
(third Thursday of each month)
22 December 09:30-12:00 Dunedin
(fourth Saturday of each month)
3 January 20:00-22:00 Brandon
(first Thursday of each month)
5 January 13:00-15:00 New Port Richey
(first Saturday of each month)
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From: Guy Geens <ggeens@iname.com@telenet-ops.be>
Subject: [LOCAL] Antwerpen: C&T Linux Gebruikers Groep
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:26 CST
This is the list of upcoming meetings for the C&T LUG, Antwerpen,
Belgium.
(The rest of this message is in Dutch.)
Wat?
----
C&T is een vereniging van computer gebruikers in Hoboken.
Oorspronkelijk alleen Atari, Mac en PC (Windows), maar later ook
Linux.
De Linux groep heeft een vergadering per maand, georganiseerd
rond een bepaald thema.
Na een kleine demonstratie is er mogelijkheid om problemen, vragen en
suggesties voor te leggen.
Waar?
=====
De vergaderingen vinden plaats in:
Zalen Ten Dorp, Kapelstraat 15-17-19 in Hoboken.
(Plan: http://www.ct.be/op_weg.htm)
Wanneer?
========
In principe elke derde woensdag van de maand om 20:00. Controleer de
agenda op de web site (http://www.ct.be/agenda.htm) voor verdere
informatie.
Praktisch
=========
De Linux vergaderingen zijn gratis voor C&T-leden. Niet-leden betalen
250 BEF/6.20 EUR voor een vergadering. Als je later toch lid wordt,
krijg je dat bedrag terug als korting op je lidmaatschap (1050
BEF/ 26 EUR jaar).
Als lid kan je alle gewone vergaderingen bijwonen, en kan je gebruik
maken van alle kortingen die de club bied (voorlopig zijn er nog geen
Linux-gerelateerde kortingen).
Meer info
=========
De Linux verantwoordelijke is Guy Geens.
Tel: 03 237 81 18
Email: ggeens@iname.com
Agenda
======
21 november: GRUB - een alternatieve boot loader
19 december: Kylix - Delphi voor Linux
16 januari: USB
20 februari: ext3
--
G. ``Iggy'' Geens - ICQ: #64109250
Home: <ggeens@iname.com> - Work: <guy.geens@cgey.be>
WWW: http://users.pandora.be/guy.geens/
`I want quality, not quantity. But I want lots of it!'
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From: Frank Hale <frankhale@yahoo.com>
Subject: aewm++-1.0.11 has been released
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:28 CST
http://sapphire.sourceforge.net
Here is the change log:
1.0.11 (3 Nov 2001)
* made it so transients can't be iconified.
* fixed up _NET_WORKAREA to take into account _NET_WM_STRUT that have
been set by clients.
* made it so that transient windows can't be maximized. I haven't
encountered a time yet when I needed to maximize one. =)
* code clean up in client.hh and client.cc
* fixed a bug in switching desktops which wouldn't take into account
if a window was iconified and it set its state to Withdrawn.
* added _NET_WM_STRUT support.
* added a setenv() function for those Unix systems that don't have one.
thanks to Jeremy Naylor for this patch! This is a compile time option.
Edit the Makefile and uncomment #NEED_SETENV in the DEFINES line.
* Fixed bug which involved Gimp starting and looking like it had
the focus when it really didn't.
* Tweaked click to raise window.
* Tweaked the setFocus function.
* Fixed motion handler to make sure button1 is the only button
which can drag a window.
* Small fix on _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW, it wasn't actually setting the focus.
* Added support for _NET_NUMBER_OF_DESKTOPS client messages.
* Added support for _NET_CURRENT_DESKTOP client messages.
* Added support for _NET_CLOSE_WINDOW client messages.
* Added support for _NET_WM_DESKTOP client messages.
* Clean ups in aewm.hh
* added -es option for edge snapping. Used -es [true|false].
default is true.
* Updates to the man page
* Started adding support for net wm spec.
* Reworked client move code. Added opaque move.
* Added -wm (wire move) option for commandline.
* Linked List clean ups.
* Added check to maximize function so that clients don't get maximized
past their max size if they set this property.
* Added edge snapping, if a window is within 10 pixels of the edge it
is snapped to the edge.
* Tweaked client raise on click.
--
irc: irc.openprojects.net, channel #sapphirewm, nick 'as'
icq: 7205161
homepage: http://europa.freeshell.org
code: http://sapphire.sourceforge.net
"HOOAH AIRBORNE!, GOD BLESS AMERICA!"
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From: Rajesh Goyal <rk@linuxcertified.com>
Subject: Commercial: Linux System Administration Bootcamp W/Free Laptop!
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:26 CST
Reply-To: info@linuxcertified.com
Hi All,
LinuxCertified.com announces the weekend system administration
bootcamp for IT professionals
- All attendees get a free Linux laptop!
Contact:
info@linuxcertified.com
http://www.linuxcertified.com/
LinuxCertified.com, a leading provider of Linux training, will
offer its next weekend system administration bootcamp on
November 10-11, 2001 in San Francisco bay area (south bay).
This workshop is designed for busy information technology pro-
fessionals and is designed to cover the most important Linux
administration areas.
In addition to carefully designed lecture material delivered by
experienced Linux professionals, there is a heavy emphasis on
hands-on learning. The training starts two weeks before the actu-
al class, with access to an online Linux server, where students
complete few challenging pre-class activities. Attendees get a
powerful Linux laptop on their arrival, along with other class
materials. They load Linux on their laptop during the class, and
use it for all the class activities and assignments. At the end
of the class they take this laptop with them to further enhance
their Linux expertise. Absolute beginners with no UNIX experience
can first come to the popular "Linux for Beginners" class and
subsequently join the system administration bootcamp.
Rapid growth of Linux into corporate and government IT environ-
ments is fueling the need for Linux certified professionals. CIOs
and managers are eager to have Linux experts in their organiza-
tions. A certification provides a tangible mechanism for their
hiring evaluation, as well as a means to market the prowess of
organizations.
"As an independent IT consultant I am always on my toes to learn
new technologies, without much free time to devote to classes.
The LinuxCertified.com bootcamp was a perfect way for me to jump-
start my Linux knowledge. I can now use Linux as a valuable
tool in my career," said Taylor Cottam, an independent consultant
who joined one of the LinuxCertified.com weekend bootcamps.
This weekend bootcamp is specially designed to prepare the at-
tendees for the objectives of Level 1 certification exams of-
fered by Linux Professional Institute (LPI). The workshop also
meets the objectives of the Red Hat Certified Engineer (RHCE) ex-
am and Sair Linux & GNU certification (LCA).
Our attendees build a strong sense of community with our instruc-
tors, fellow students, and our network of recruiters and com-
panies looking for Linux consultants.
About LinuxCertified.com
The mission of LinuxCertified.com is to bring Linux to mainstream
IT usage. We firmly believe that Linux has an enormous poten-
tial, once it crosses over from the early adopters to the more
mainstream users. Our goal is to help this transition by providing:
- Linux trained and certified professionals
- Linux certified products that cater to mainstream users rather
than early adopters.
Contact:
info@linuxcertified.com
http://www.linuxcertified.com/
Tel: 1-877-800-6873 / 1-408-314-6700
================================================================================
Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds.
All other names and trademarks are the property of their respective
owners.
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From: "one2001boy@yahoo.com" <one2001boy@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ann: C interpreter for GTK+ and X11/Motif is available now
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:34 CST
SoftIntegration, Inc., the leader of scripting technology for ubiquitous
computing, has released Ch GTK+ and Ch X11/Motif toolkits. These
toolkits add new graphical user interface (GUI) capabilities to Ch --- a
cross-platform
C virtual machine with classes.
The Ch X11/Motif toolkit conforms to the X11/Motif of the X Window
System. The Ch GTK+ toolkit is Ch binding to GTK+. X11/Motif and GTK+
are application programming interface (API) in C with widgets for
creating graphical user interface in multi-platforms. With Ch-GTK+ and
Ch-X11/Motif toolkits, developers can now write C applications with
user-friendly graphical interface in one platform and distribute them to
run in multiple platforms, without tedious compile/link/execute/debug
cycles.
Ch GTK+ toolkit version 1.0 beta runs in Windows/Linux/Unix, whereas Ch
X11/Motif toolkit version 1.0 beta runs in Linux and Unix. Both are
available free for Ch users.
More information can be found at
http://www.softintegration.com
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From: Joe Bouchard <joe@bouchard.com>
Subject: Kudos
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:34 CST
In comp.os.linux.announce, you wrote:
>This is an automated report about activity of our newsgroup
>comp.os.linux.announce. It covers period between the
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>on Mon Oct 22 00:05:01 CDT 2001.
For what it's worth, I just wanted to say you guys are doing a hell of a
good job moderating this list. I have no doubt it takes a lot of time,
or if your robots do most of the work, I'm sure it took a lot of time to
set them up.
I've always been impressed at how the list stays on topic and doesn't
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From: url@scaredcity.com (gnu_bob)
Subject: good GNUs
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:34 CST
Just a few sites we put up to help celebrate the gnu millennium, &/or
the Bush/Gates strategic alliance. Sorry for any repetition. We're
trying to stay within our promotional budget. Thanks.
http://www.linuxville.com
http://www.opensourcenews.com
http://www.scaredcity.com
We'll be giving away http://www.opensourceworks.com, including a
year's free hosting.
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From: Serge Levert <goa_entranced@yahoo.com>
Subject: SOLUTION: lilo awol on win/lin dual-boot, boot disk gives kernel panic
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:43 CST
I installed Mandrake 6.1 to dual-boot on a Windows 98 machine.
Everything worked fine for a long time, then one day LILO simply didn't
load anymore when booting. I tried booting with the Mandrake bootdisk,
and that gave me a kernel panic error. More detailed information on
the problem and solution below.
I have one 6GB hard disk which, _previous_ to installing Mandrake, was
partitioned into:
c:\ FAT32 2GB
d:\ FAT32 2GB
e:\ FAT32 1.6GB
f:\ FAT 0.4GB
I installed Mandrake replacing the e: partition with 3 EXT2 partitions
(root, swap, home). Everything worked great, LILO would start when
booting the computer.
Problem:
After a few weeks my computer started simply booting to Windows, LILO
had disappeared, but Windows worked. If I tried booting with the
Mandrake boot disk, it would stall during the boot up checks at the
following lines:
Partition check:
hda: hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:07
Eventually I noticed that the e: drive (previously f: - the FAT drive)
had disappeared entirely from Windows (and the whole system.) It turns
out this is what caused the entire problem.
Solution:
I downloaded and created the very useful "tomsrtbt" diskette, which
contains a complete Linux distribution on a floppy, and allows you to
mount the different partitions.
I booted with that and ran `/sbin/fdisk -l`, which gave:
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 261 2096451 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2 262 783 4192965 5 Extended
/dev/hda5 262 522 2096451 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda6 523 611 714861 83 Linux native
/dev/hda7 612 627 128488+ 82 Linux swap
/dev/hda8 628 665 305203+ 83 Linux native
Evidently the 3rd windows partition - hda6 (the FAT one after the ext2
ones) had disappeared.
I downloaded and installed the free Windows program 'explore2fs'. This
lets you read Linux files and/or export them to Windows.
explore2fs showed 2 partitions:
hda6 (root)
hda8 (home)
I booted with tomsrtbt and took a look at /etc/fstab. hda6 was indeed
still being set up as a DOS partition, and hda7, hda8 and hda9 were
root, swap and home.
Here is the diff that was necessary - 'diff /etc/fstab
/etc/fstab.orig':
1,3c1,3
< /dev/hda6 / ext2 defaults 1 1
< /dev/hda7 swap swap defaults 0 0
< /dev/hda8 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
---
> /dev/hda7 / ext2 defaults 1 1
> /dev/hda8 swap swap defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda9 /home ext2 defaults 1 2
10a11
> /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,rw,conv=auto 0 0
So basically I just decremented the Linux partition numbers to take
into account the partition which had vanished, and deleted the previous
hda6 line.
This correction allowed me to boot into Linux with the Mandrake
bootdisk, but LILO was still nowhere to be found during bootup.
I decided to use Loadlin, another Linux loader. I got Loadlin.exe from
the Mandrake CD under directory 'dosutils' (can also easily be found on
the net) and put it in a Windows folder named c:\linux.
Then, using explore2fs, I found my compressed Linux kernel (in my case
it was /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-7mdk) and exported it (right-click) to the
c:\linux folder. I named it 'vmlinuz' in Windows.
Finally, so that I would be given the choice of Linux or Windows when
booting, I edited my c:\config.sys with my favorite text editor and
added the following:
[menu]
menuitem=WIN, Windows Boot
menuitem=LINUX, Linux Boot
[LINUX]
shell=c:\linux\loadlin.exe c:\linux\vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 ro
[WIN]
A big thanks goes out to the ever helpful readers of
comp.os.linux.setup!
__________________________________________________
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From: jlittler@mstation.org
Subject: www: Mstation aka Linux MusicStation new things
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:43 CST
Reply-To: jlittler@mstation.org
M station News for November 01
===============================
Hi Everyone,
This month we have an update again and as promised
we have some tech stuff. Our BeatZ section has a new
eclectic emphasis now instead of being mostly dance music.
We also have another makeover which goes back to the old
dark background. Our excuse is that Mstation.org just had
a birthday and, well, the dog ate the old logo.
Here is what we have ...
John Lazarro talks about the new networking facilities
for sfront for linux.
Article
Stagefright is icky. We look at ways to make it go away.
Article
Next month we have an interview with DAP developer Richard
Kent in addition to whatever else we come up with.
Cheers
John
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From: Baraldi <baraldi@lacasilla.com.ar>
Subject: Pipenightdreams 0.9.0
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:43 CST
Version 0.9.0 of PipeNightDreams (a PipeDream puzzle game clone) has been
released. Cool graphics, and 25 levels of increasingly difficulty are its main
features.
Check it out at
www.libsdl.org/projects/pipenightdreams
______________________________________________
LaCasilla.com.ar "Tu e-mail estés donde estés"
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From: ERDI Gergo <cactus@cactus.rulez.org>
Subject: Guikachu 0.98.0 "Downloadimashou": GNOME Resource editor for PalmOS
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:29:51 CST
Dear users of both large and small computing tools,
A new release of Guikachu is available.
About Guikachu
==============
Guikachu is a GNOME application for graphical editing of resource
files for PalmOS-based pocket computers. The user interface is
modelled after Glade, the GNOME UI builder.
Catch it all from http://cactus.rulez.org/projects/guikachu/
Features
========
* libXML-based I/O
* Exporting to PilRC .rcp files (compile with pilrc -H)
* String resources
* Dialog resources
* Menu resources
* Form resources
* Per-application resources (e.g. version number, icon)
* Form editor, with 100% accurate preview and graphical drag & drop
capability to make designing forms more easier and faster
* Native font support in the form editor for more precise
preview
* XSLT style sheets and shell script to generate RCP files from
Guikachu documents
About this release
==================
All the bugfixes and features planned for 1.0 are finished, so this is
the feature-freeze release.
Changes:
* Lots of bug- and memory leak-fixes
* Session Manager support: the last opened file is remembered
accross sessions
* The editor of Dialog resources uses the same list editor as
the List widget editor
So, what does the future hold? The 0.98.x line will be for bugfixes,
and 0.99.0 will be the release candidate for 1.0. Of course, this all
means that everything is pretty much going to stay the same, so now is
a good time to work on the translations and the documentation.
http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/14820/2001/10/0/6922132/ has the
details.
Guikachu uses GTK-- and GNOME-- for its user interface. File I/O is
implemented with the libxml package. Dialog windows are loaded via
libglade. You will need the versions of these packages available in
the GNOME 1.4 bundle (with the exception of GNOME-- which you will
need to upgrade to version 1.2.0)
To actually create the PalmOS resource files, you will also need PilRC
(part of the GNU PalmOS SDK) to compile the .rpc files produced by
Guikachu.
Beware of bugémons!
Cactus
--
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\ http://cactus.rulez.org \ they want' -- RMS, at GUADEC 2001
`-----= cactus@cactus.rulez.org =--'
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