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Re: IP: Magic Lantern
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Adam Fields)
Tue Nov 27 16:07:50 2001
Message-Id: <200111272056.fARKuMk29889@sparkle.generation.net>
To: Gilles Gravier <Gilles.Gravier@Sun.com>
Cc: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>,
Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs@philodox.com>, dcsb@ai.mit.edu,
cryptography@wasabisystems.com
From: Adam Fields <fields@surgam.net>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:56:44 +0100."
<3C03C5CC.FA37766B@Sun.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:56:22 -0500
Gilles Gravier says:
> What about:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1436-2001Nov22.html
>
> <QUOTE>
> At least one antivirus software company, McAfee Corp., contacted the FBI
> on Wednesday to ensure its software wouldn't inadvertently detect the
> bureau's snooping software and alert a criminal suspect.
> </QUOTE>
>
> I know we were all tought not to believe the press but still...
This sort of raises an interesting question - is it/will it be a crime
to detect and/or remove software placed on a computer by the FBI? Even
if you don't know what it is? Is this being considered tantamount to
interfering with an investigation, even if there has been no
notification of an investigation? On a somewhat related note, is it
wise for the FBI to open itself up to potential lawsuits if their
software corrupts data or otherwise interferes with legitimate
business, or allows an intruder to do so undetected by utilizing the
AV-invisibility channel reserved for FBI-ware (if such a thing
exists)?
> Gilles.
>
> "R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
> >
> > --- begin forwarded text
> >
> > Status: U
> > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:44:34 -0500
> > To: ip-sub-1@majordomo.pobox.com
> > From: David Farber <dave@farber.net>
> > Subject: IP: Magic Lantern
> > Sender: owner-ip-sub-1@admin.listbox.com
> > Reply-To: farber@cis.upenn.edu
> >
> > >From: "Thompson, Tony" <Tony_Thompson@nai.com>
> > >To: dave@farber.net
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >
> > >With regards to a message you sent earlier on Magic Lantern, Network
> > >Associates/McAfee has not contacted the FBI, nor has the FBI contacted
> > >NAI/McAfee, regarding Magic Lantern. Additionally, we do not expect the F
BI
> > >to contact Network Associates/McAfee regarding Magic Lantern.
> > >
> > >Please let me know if you have additional questions.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Tony Thompson
> > >Public Relations Manager
> > >Network Associates / McAfee
> > >408_346.3696
> > >tony_thompson@nai.com
> >
> > For archives see:
> > http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/
> >
> > --- end forwarded text
> >
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