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Re: Rubber hose attack

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rick Smith at Secure Computing)
Fri Nov 2 17:42:04 2001

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Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 14:13:08 -0600
To: <pasward@big.uwaterloo.ca>
From: Rick Smith at Secure Computing <rick_smith@securecomputing.com>
Cc: vertigo <vertigo@panix.com>, JohnE37179@aol.com,
	Jason.Gruber@btinternet.com, cryptography@wasabisystems.com
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>Rick Smith at Secure Computing writes:

>  > While I would feel compassion for consumers
>  > who are hurt or inconvenienced by some huge scam that exploited a poor
>  > Microsoft security implementation, such a scenario would be 
> entertaining to
>  > watch.

At 11:49 AM 11/2/2001, pasward@big.uwaterloo.ca wrote:

>What makes you believe that you will not be that consumer?

I might be. And maybe I'll have a terrific story to tell when it's all 
over. But I'm not daunted by the inconvenience of providing my contact 
information when I order something on-line, so I'm less likely to be drawn 
to one of their 'wallet' initiatives. Besides, this isn't the first time 
Microsoft has proposed a leaky wallet for use by the surfing public. So I'm 
more likely to suffer a more conventional (and less interesting) type of 
card fraud. It's happened before.

As I've said before, I think the security community plays an essential role 
when picking apart commercial security technologies, especially when they 
turn out to be as flawed as Microsoft's latest balloon.


Rick.
smith@securecomputing.com            roseville, minnesota
"Authentication" in bookstores http://www.visi.com/crypto/




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