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Re: Rubber hose attack
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (vertigo)
Fri Nov 2 14:37:13 2001
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 12:44:38 -0500 (EST)
From: vertigo <vertigo@panix.com>
To: Rick Smith at Secure Computing <rick_smith@securecomputing.com>
Cc: JohnE37179@aol.com, <Jason.Gruber@btinternet.com>,
<cryptography@wasabisystems.com>
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> On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Rick Smith at Secure Computing wrote:
> Hmmm. I'm able to walk into a bank in semi-rural Italy and pull hundreds of
> dollars out of my credit card account. I'm able to buy subscriptions to
> Russian news sites. This seems pretty world-wide and Internet-wide to me.
> Existing systems work pretty well even if they don't achieve some cosmic
> notion of "Trust" or "Identity."
The point is, without this cosmic notion of trust, _I_ could walk into a bank
in semi-rurual Turkey and pull hundreds of dollars from YOUR credit card ac-
count. (Unless I was there during an earthquake, and all the telephone lines
were down and all I had was 20 USD, 10 million Turkish Lira, my passport, and
a copy of Knuth. <grrr>)
vertigo
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