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Re: Scarfo "keylogger", PGP

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rick Smith at Secure Computing)
Wed Oct 17 12:28:49 2001

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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:09:57 -0500
To: Peter Fairbrother <peter.fairbrother@ntlworld.com>,
	David Wagner <daw@mozart.cs.berkeley.edu>,
	<cryptography@wasabisystems.com>
From: Rick Smith at Secure Computing <rick_smith@securecomputing.com>
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At 09:59 AM 10/16/2001, Peter Fairbrother wrote:

>The affidavit is extremely complex and hard to unravel, whether to try to
>preserve secrecy, in the hope that it will confuse the defence/Court, or
>perhaps it's just legalese, I don't know.

I spoke to someone a couple of years ago who had tried to establish a set 
of technical standards for handling host security logs so that they could 
be used as legal evidence, and ran into a stone wall at the Justice 
Department. Evidently they feared that defendants could manipulate any such 
standards to ensure that *no* electronic evidence could ever stand up in court.

I suspect the affidavit is badly written so that it meets the minimum 
standard for the court while providing as little useful information as 
possible.


Rick.
smith@securecomputing.com            roseville, minnesota
"Authentication" in bookstores http://www.visi.com/crypto/




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