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RE: Which internet services were used?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rob Lemos)
Mon Sep 17 15:41:47 2001
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From: Rob Lemos <robert.lemos@cnet.com>
To: "'Matt Crawford'" <crawdad@fnal.gov>,
cryptography@wasabisystems.com
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:01:51 -0700
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Several of these reports are based on an article that I did. (CNN reported from the article as well, but made too many assumptions and lapse into error.)
Essentially, AOL and Earthlink have admitted to working with the FBI to provide whatever data they have, but they are not being any more specific. Earthlink did say, however, that it had been served with a FISA warrant, which is a surveillance warrant that has a lessen burden of proof than you average warrant for a criminal investigation.
Here's the original: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7141812.html
-R
Robert Lemos
Senior writer -- Security, Privacy and e-Crime
ZDNet News/CNet News.com
PGP key: 0x6E1966EB
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Crawford [mailto:crawdad@fnal.gov]
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:11 AM
To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com
Subject: Re: Which internet services were used?
> A german TV news magazine (ZDF spezial) just mentioned that
> the terrorists prepared and coordinated
> also by using the internet, but no details were told.
>
> [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the news conferences made
> so far. The FBI has yet to make any such statement.
The only details I've heard are that the terrorists have "elaborate
web sites" to "recruit and solicit donations." Far short of
operational use of the internet.
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Several of these reports are based on an article that =
I did. (CNN reported from the article as well, but made too many =
assumptions and lapse into error.)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Essentially, AOL and Earthlink have admitted to =
working with the FBI to provide whatever data they have, but they are =
not being any more specific. Earthlink did say, however, that it had =
been served with a FISA warrant, which is a surveillance warrant that =
has a lessen burden of proof than you average warrant for a criminal =
investigation.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Here's the original: <A =
HREF=3D"http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7141812.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7141812.html</A><=
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-R</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Robert Lemos</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Senior writer -- Security, Privacy and =
e-Crime</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>ZDNet News/CNet News.com </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>PGP key: 0x6E1966EB</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Matt Crawford [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:crawdad@fnal.gov">mailto:crawdad@fnal.gov</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 7:11 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Which internet services were =
used?</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>> A german TV news magazine (ZDF spezial) just =
mentioned that</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> the terrorists prepared and coordinated</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> also by using the internet, but no details were =
told.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> [Moderator: I've listened to virtually all the =
news conferences made</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>> so far. The FBI has yet to make any such =
statement.</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The only details I've heard are that the terrorists =
have "elaborate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>web sites" to "recruit and solicit =
donations." Far short of</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>operational use of the internet.</FONT>
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