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Re: Outreach Volunteers Needed - Content Control is a Dead End

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ian BROWN)
Fri Aug 31 14:53:58 2001

To: Dan Geer <geer@world.std.com>
Cc: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>, dcsb@ai.mit.edu,
	cryptography@wasabisystems.com,
	Digital Bearer Settlement List <dbs@philodox.com>,
	s.g.davies@lse.ac.uk
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:17:56 +0100
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From: Ian BROWN <I.Brown@cs.ucl.ac.uk>

Dan Geer wrote:
>You only get an even number of {privacy, copyright} -- either the
>owner of information controls how it is used or he does not.  Either
>you embrace copyright-and-privacy, or you embrace neither. 

Not sure I agree, because of the scope of initial and subsequent distribution 
and the target of enforcement actions.

Copyright holders usually aim to maximise profitable distribution, and  
DMCA-like enforcement is aimed at consumers. Privacy requires minimal 
initial disclosure of information, followed by (at least in jurisdictions such 
as the EU that support fair information practices) corporate enforcement, 
which is much easier.




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