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Re: Starium (was Re: article: german secure phone)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Allen Simpson)
Tue Jun 5 12:43:43 2001
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 21:56:08 -0400
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
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Peter Gutmann wrote:
>
> "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@wasabisystems.com> writes:
>
> >I was unaware that Starium has ever released a product to be compatible with,
> >and a quick glance at their web site fails to reveal products for sale. Am I
> >mistaken on this? I would very much like to buy their products if they
> >existed...
>
> They went belly-up some time ago, I don't know who owns the IP rights.
>
I thought they were going to release the details and do a public
standard? Where are the details?
Is there any interest in putting together a little research group?
Here's what I think the basic requirements would be:
- must work as bump in the cord for any analog phone line, and talk
peer to peer with any similarly configured analog phone line.
- must talk with any similarly configured digital phone line.
-- correllary, should work with OffTheSelf V.34 modem chips. We
already know how to do this with ISDN NAPs. No real need for V.92.
-- correllary, will also work with phone talking to computer.
- must use diffie-hellman generated shared secrets.
- must use either/both pre-configured secret and/or public-key for
identification phase to prevent MonkeyInTheMiddle.
- price point under $100.
+ a big plus would be to figure out how to use with currently deployed
IP phones. I'll note that Cisco phones load their firmware using TFTP,
which I think is pretty insecure, so upgrades shouldn't be a problem,
and might very well lead to a much better product....
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