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Re: Another shining example of Microsoft "security".

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kris Kennaway)
Mon Apr 23 10:54:46 2001

Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:06:27 -0700
From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To: vertigo <vertigo@panix.com>
Cc: Enzo Michelangeli <em@who.net>, cryptography@wasabisystems.com,
	coderpunks@toad.com
Message-ID: <20010421020627.A10017@xor.obsecurity.org>
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:44:55PM -0400, vertigo wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Enzo Michelangeli wrote:
>=20
> > Besides, the fact that many users don't check the validity of the certs
> > presented by the other side is a disgrace, and should not be encouraged=
 by
> > distributing broken software.
>=20
> It certainly should not be encouraged.  The fact remains that
> informed users are rare.  The algorithms are strong, but the
> infrastructure is cream of wheat.  Microsoft, if this is true,
> (I use Pine and there isn't a copy of Outlook anywhere in sight)
> has done an injustice not only to the user but, more importantly,
> to the infrastructure.

The Pine SSL patches also don't do any validity checking of
certificates, AFAIK.

Kris

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