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Re: Is PGP broken?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (L. Sassaman)
Mon Dec 4 19:00:18 2000

Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 15:42:29 -0800 (PST)
From: "L. Sassaman" <rabbi@quickie.net>
Cc: <cryptography@c2.net>, <ralf@senderek.de>
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On 4 Dec 2000, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:

> Examples of the first case would be an identifier which indicates the
> signing key.  In PGP this would be the key ID; in SMIME, CMS and other
> PKCS-7 derived formats it is the IssuerAndSerialNumber.  These fields
> are not hashed.  This is not security critical because it is essentially
> a hint about where to find the key.  If this data is altered, the wrong
> key will be found and the signature won't verify.

Agreed. This is the main exception I pointed out to Ralf, and these are
the reasons I gave him in my private email to him.

> Examples of the second case would be other kinds of hints for finding the
> signing key, in the form of URLs or database pointers which might change.
> PGP's preferred key server subpacket might fall into this category.

I'm hesitant to put this outside the hashed area. The preferred key server
is a preference stated by the key owner; he should be the only one able
to change that.

> PGP might want to add a countersignature mechanism in the future and an
> unhashed subpacket would be a good place for it.

I'm not against unhashed subpackets. I'm against unhashed
security-critical subpackets. I would think that the best way to design a
program interpreting certificates with such packets would be to have a
"whitelist" of subpackets permitted outside the hashed area. Anything not
in this whitelist should be rejected or ignored.


- --Len.

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L. Sassaman

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