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Re: Ridding IP of logic, reason, and law

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (P.J. Ponder)
Sat Jul 29 17:48:09 2000

Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 17:46:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "P.J. Ponder" <ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
To: Rich Salz <rsalz@caveosystems.com>
Cc: cryptography@c2.net
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Rich Salz wrote:

> > If the US federal government owns this algorithm, then it can't be
> > patented.
> 
> I'm not sure if you are referring to SHA1 in particular, or in general. 
> While I don't know about SHA-1, the US Government *can* own patents. 
> For example, here's one that's actually kinda relevent. :)

Yeah, you're right.  I remember the patent discussion came up a while back
with the NSA's Semantic Forest thing.  I think it's the heat, global
warming is ruining my memory.  As I recall, though, there was at one time
a provision of law in the US that the federal government couldn't
copyright their documents.  Maybe that is changed now.  I still seems like
US federal 'inventions' should belong to the people.  Who the hell are
they representing anyway?

[The U.S. government can't copyright things but it can patent
them. Copyright is not the same as patents. --Perry]

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