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Re: Weak user keys, strong servers.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Sun Jul 23 13:40:22 2000

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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 08:50:01 -0700
To: hal@finney.org, coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net,
        jamesd@echeque.com
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
Cc: daw@CS.Berkeley.EDU, dpj@world.std.com
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At 12:15 PM 7/22/2000 -0700, hal@finney.org wrote:
 > You could have a slightly simpler system by just letting G^q be the
 > user's public key,

Which gives the server unlimited power to read the users mail and 
impersonate the user, even if the user is using a high entropy passphrase.

 > It's a little unclear what your security model is, whether the
 > client is trusted or not.

That is because I am looking for both belt and braces to keep the users 
pants up.

I want a system that is invulnerable to outsiders who have no knowledge of 
the passphrase and infrequent and limited access to the user's machine and 
no power over the server, even if the user chooses a weak passphrase, and a 
system that is also invulnerable to outsiders with power over the server if 
the user chooses a strong passphrase and they have no access to the user's 
machine.

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          James A. Donald
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