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RE: FBI announcement on email search 'Carnivore'

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rodger, William)
Wed Jul 12 23:57:35 2000

From: "Rodger, William" <wrodger@usatoday.com>
To: Meyer Wolfsheim <wolf@priori.net>,
        "P.J. Ponder" <ponder@freenet.tlh.fl.us>
Cc: cryptography@c2.net,
        Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 17:30:02 -0400
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Meyer wrote:
> 
> I guess this explains the FBI's opposition to the Verio 
> merger. I wonder
> if a colocation company or service provider could be forced 
> to disclose
> its participation in the Carnivore project. 

Not unless compelled by the government.


> There's been speculation about NSA black boxes in such facilities for
> years. The FBI, however, isn't quite as "above the law" as 
> the NSA likes
> to think it is. What would the legality of operation a random email
> sniffer be? 

It wouldn't be. The FBI needs to show a judge that email is at least
relevant to an investigation and, in most cases, there is probable cause to
believe a crime has been commited -- random emails don't fit that
description.

Then again, when email is more than six months old, the law says a judge
"shall" issue a court order for stored emails when subpoenaed by the
government. Many observers consider such language a rubber stamp.


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