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Re: Electronic Signatures Yield Unpleasant Surprises

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Allen Simpson)
Mon Jul 3 19:55:50 2000

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Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 12:08:29 -0400
From: William Allen Simpson <wsimpson@greendragon.com>
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Cc: "Arnold G. Reinhold" <reinhold@world.std.com>
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"Arnold G. Reinhold" wrote:
> Nothing new here. I often buy stuff on line and only get e-mail
> receipts. My credit card statements are a backup, I suppose. If
> anything the new law will strengthen our case with the IRS.
> 
Possibly, but I also see language in the Act 

   (iv) informing the consumer (I) how, after the consent, the
   consumer may, upon request, obtain a paper copy of an electronic 
   record, and (II) whether any fee will be charged for such copy;

So, what happens when they "inform" you that your statement has a fee? 
Saying, of course, that the new fee was authorized by Congress?

Will lack of a fee be a competitive pressure?  Remember how a few 
years ago _every_ bank began adding statement fees?  Even some credit 
unions began charging.  (I changed credit unions over this issue.)

I expect all ATMs to add a few words to the "Would you like a receipt?"
query, "for only 50 cents?" 

It will be very hard for municipalities to outlaw such ATM charges, 
as the Federal legislation explicitly supercedes state and local laws.


> I am more concerned about all the press coverage that suggests this
> law is about cryptographic signatures, retinal scans and the like,
> when its really about  clicking "I Accept" buttons.
> 
Yeah, CNet blew it again, even after being corrected in the past:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2179136.html 

I was particularly amused in the WSJ article by Clinton's passphrase: 
Buddy, the name of his dog....

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