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Has RSADSI Lost their mind?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William H. Geiger III)
Sun Jul 2 19:02:07 2000
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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@openpgp.net>
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 17:45:44 -0500
To: cypherpunks@openpgp.net
Cc: coderpunks@toad.com, cryptography@c2.net, CYBERIA-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM,
dbs@philodox.com, "R. A. Hettinga" <rah@shipwright.com>,
linux-ipsec@clinet.fi, pgp-keyserver-folk@flame.org,
pgp-users@cryptorights.org, ukcrypto@maillist.ox.ac.uk, eay@pobox.com,
ddt@openpgp.net
Below is a couple of messages posted to the OpenSSL users mailing list.
Seems someone down at RSADSI has lost it. I found the part about them
*owning* EAY quite amusing. I wounder if anyone bothered telling him that
he is considered owned property of RSADSI.
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>From: Bill Rebey <Bill.Rebey@healthcare.com>
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>Subject: Legality - just heated up
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I just got off the phone with, among others, John Riley at RSA. He's
claiming things like (paraphrased):
"It's flat out illegal to use OpenSSL for Commercial purposes" "Even if
you use OpenSSL, it still uses RSA technologies that you have to pay
royalties for (regardless whether it uses RSA encryption or not)" "We own
EAY, thus we own SSLeay/OpenSSL"
He's leaning on us to pay $70K up front, plus $636 in royalty fees for
every copy of our product that we sell!!
Can anyone clarify any of this for me?
Is there another group that I should mail to that would be a more
appropriate or authoritative audience for such legal questions?
Thanks again,
Bill Rebey
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From: Bill Rebey
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 4:06 PM
To: openssl-users@openssl.org
Subject: Legality
Hi all,
Assuming I ever get OpenSSL figured out and working, I need to know about
the legality of using OpenSSL.
I am using it in a Commercial product.
What can and can't I use? I control both the client and server, so the
brand of encryption that I use is not important. What's far more
important is that I avoid using anything that requires licensing,
royalties, fees, etc.
Is there a definitive source for this information somewhere?
Thanks for any help you can offer,
Bill Rebey
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