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Re: random seed generation without user interaction?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Kelsey)
Wed Jun 7 19:12:11 2000

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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 05:47:28 -0500
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At 10:33 PM 6/6/00 -0400, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote:

...
>The patent appears much broader than just focusing a camera on a Lava 
>lamp. They claim digitizing the state of any chaotic system and then 
>hashing it to seed a PRNG. The Lava lamp is given as a specific 
>example (claim 3).

Wouldn't Don Davis' work on hard drive timings, in which he specifically
claimed that the system was chaotic, qualify as prior art for this?  

[Wouldn't all the work done on things like hashing inputs in general
to distil entropy, which was around for years before this patent,
count? --Perry]

>Arnold Reinhold

--John Kelsey, kelsey@counterpane.com


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