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Re: Critics blast Windows 2000's quiet use of DES instead of 3DES
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dennis Glatting)
Thu May 18 14:17:08 2000
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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 22:48:59 -0700
From: Dennis Glatting <dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com>
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To: "L. Sassaman" <rabbi@quickie.net>
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"L. Sassaman" wrote:
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> On Wed, 17 May 2000, Dennis Glatting wrote:
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> > > Frankly, I can't understand why the IPsec protocol still allows DES. It
> > > should require strong encryption. Having DES in a product these days makes
> > > about as much sense as mandating the usage of ROT13.
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> > We are waiting for AES.
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> So am I correct in assuming you are saying that DES will be disallowed as
> part of the IPsec protocol when AES is finalized?
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> This would be good. I still think that DES should be dropped immediately,
> however.
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I didn't go to Adelaide, so I am not up on current events. In the two
or three prior IETF IPsec and SAAG meetings there was discussion on
reducing 1DES to a SHOULD or MAY and elevating 3DES to a SHOULD or
MUST for IPsec. Along the way AES started to look like a real
possibility.
Go to http://web.mit.edu/network/ietf/sa/ and check out SAAG 45 and
draft-ietf-saag-aes-ciph-00.txt.