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Re: GPS no longer encrypted

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Derek Atkins)
Wed May 3 13:12:40 2000

To: "Trei, Peter" <ptrei@rsasecurity.com>
Cc: cryptography@c2.net, "'Rich Salz'" <salzr@certco.com>
From: Derek Atkins <warlord@MIT.EDU>
Date: 03 May 2000 11:26:02 -0400
In-Reply-To: "Trei, Peter"'s message of "Wed, 3 May 2000 09:59:30 -0400"
Message-Id: <sjmvh0v7j05.fsf@indiana.mit.edu>

Do you mean 13 feet radius or 13 feet diameter?  I was seeing a
vertical error of approximately +/-10 feet (although I'd believe 13 ;)
Horizontally I was seeing approx +/- .0015 minutes in both lattitude
and longitude (which equates out to approximately +/-9 feet).
Considering the inacuracy of my measurements, I would mostly concur
with your observations, except that I'd extend it to a sphere (instead
of a circle) of radius 10'.  I can't wait to get up flying again :)

-derek

"Trei, Peter" <ptrei@rsasecurity.com> writes:

> Yes, my little Garmin GPS III+ now reports error circles as low as
> 13 feet (as opposed to about 200 before the change). This is *very*
> nice for people who need that level of precision. Of course, minor 
> errors in the map database become glaringly obvious when you 
> can tell which lane you're driving in, as opposed to merely which
> road you are on.
> 
> Over on sci.geo.satellite-nav they're wetting their pants in joy.
> 
> Peter Trei
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Rich Salz[SMTP:salzr@certco.com]
> > Sent: 	Tuesday, May 02, 2000 10:12 AM
> > To: 	cryptography@c2.net
> > Subject: 	GPS no longer encrypted
> > 
> > A handful of press releases, including
> >  
> > http://www.whitehouse.gov/library/ThisWeek.cgi?type=p&date=1&briefing=0
> > 
> > Which starts...
> >     Today, I am pleased to announce that the United States will stop the
> >     intentional degradation of the Global Positioning System (GPS) signals
> >     available to the public beginning at midnight tonight.  We call this
> >     degradation feature Selective Availability (SA). This will mean that
> >     civilian users of GPS will be able to pinpoint locations up to ten
> > times
> >     more accurately than they do now.  GPS is a dual-use, satellite-based
> >     system that provides accurate location and timing data to users
> > worldwide.
> > 
> > 
> 

-- 
       Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
       Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
       URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/    PP-ASEL-IA     N1NWH
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