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Re: ECHELON Watch

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (bram)
Tue Nov 16 16:07:49 1999

Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 12:26:01 -0800 (PST)
From: bram <bram@gawth.com>
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On 16 Nov 1999, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

> >ACLU today launched a new web site www.echelonwatch.org, which is designed 
> >to focus public attention on the threats to civil liberties which are 
> >posed by the massive international communications surveillance program 
> >sometimes known by the code name ECHELON. The attached release gives more 
> >details on the site.

I find the phrasing of this site curious - the impression that I got from
the last cypherpunks meeting is that echelon is mostly used for
industrial/government espionage - the number of reports it generates (two
a day if my memory servers) are just too small to say much about
individuals.

Besides, violating individual rights is the FBI's job.

-Bram



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