[5979] in cryptography@c2.net mail archive
Re: DEA says drug smugglers used crypto & Net but cops got
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Stewart)
Tue Oct 26 20:54:57 1999
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 09:55:03 -0700
To: "Marcus J. Ranum" <mjr@nfr.net>, cryptography@c2.net
From: Bill Stewart <bill.stewart@pobox.com>
Cc: cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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At 08:21 AM 10/25/1999 -0400, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:
>>>including use of the Internet, encrypted telephones, and cloned cellular
>>>telephones
>
>They don't say what "encrypted telephones" mean, either. Remember,
>these are the same guys who try to tell people that spread spectrum
>is "encryption" or at least "secure."
Remember that GSM phones and US digital cellphones support encryption.
All broken, of course, but it _is_ encryption.
In some countries the PTT turns off GSM encryption or forces use of A5/2.
In the US, the different cellphone standards support different crypto,
and some cell companies or cell sites don't use it.
>I'll bet $100 to a $1 that if there was a way to find out, we'd
>find out that the "encrypted telephones" in use in the case in
>question were not "encryption" as most of the members of this
>list understand it. Is there enough information in Mr. Marshall's
>description to be able to associate the FUD with a case and then
>find out what kind of evidence they present?
Thanks!
Bill
Bill Stewart, bill.stewart@pobox.com
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