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Re: IP: IETF considers building wiretapping into the Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eugene Leitl)
Thu Oct 14 15:32:50 1999

From: Eugene Leitl <eugene.leitl@lrz.uni-muenchen.de>
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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:53:01 -0700 (PDT)
To: James Robertson <jamesr@steptwo.com.au>
Cc: cryptography@c2.net
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James Robertson writes:
 
Boy, things are really heating up on raven@ietf.org. If you're not
there, you're missing something.

 > As an Australian, I am more than a little concerned
 > that an American law enforcement agency is trying
 > to dictate the design of an international communication
 > standard.
 
Well, aren't there Oz engineers in the IETF? If there aren't, that's
their fault, isn't it?

 > Does this mean they can wiretap Australian conversations
 > as well?

You never heard of Echelon & consorts? Of course they can. The current
debate is whether to make it even easier for them.

Personally I don't think on the long run there is any way around of
implementing the equivalent for mail mixers for other IP services.


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