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Re: IP: IETF considers building wiretapping into the Internet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Allen Ethridge)
Thu Oct 14 09:48:04 1999

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 20:02:39 -0500
From: Allen Ethridge <ethridge@onramp.net>
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On 10/13/99 at 7:49 PM, pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann) wrote:

> Why not refrain in the *expectation* that it'll be done incompetently?  If
> previous efforts along these lines (Clipper, TACDFIPSFKMI) are anything to go
> by then:
> 
>   - The design and planning process alone will cost enough that it'll be a
>     severe problem.
>   - It'll take years to complete.
>   - It'll be unworkable when it's done.
>   - Throughout the entire process, it'll be a magnet for criticism from
>     privacy advocates, the IT industry, telco's, left-wingers, right_wingers, 
>   ...
> 
> If they want to play big brother, why not give them more than enough rope, 
> point at a conveniently-placed tree limb if necessary, and then stand back?

None of these things happened when CALEA was implemented in the traditional
circuit-switched voice network. CALEA advocates already have a success to point
to.

   Allen
   




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