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Re: Globalstar close to pact with FBI over wiretaps

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Phil Karn)
Wed Sep 29 20:42:59 1999

Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:20:38 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <199909300020.RAA07600@servo.qualcomm.com>
From: Phil Karn <karn@qualcomm.com>
To: gnu@toad.com
Cc: cryptography@c2.net, jberman@cdt.org, karn@qualcomm.com
In-reply-to: <199909281913.MAA24447@toad.com> (message from John Gilmore on
	Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:13:24 -0700)

Yet another illustration of how true security can only be provided by
the users themselves on an end-to-end basis. Saltzer, Reed & Clark
(authors of "End-to-End Arguments in Systems Design") have been proven
right yet again. So has Machiavelli, author of "The Prince".

The necessary hook for CDMA PCS users to provide their own end-to-end
encryption -- a generic IP packet data service -- has finally been
rolled out by Sprint PCS, over six years after I first prototyped it
in the lab. You may have seen their ads last weekend for their
"Wireless Web" service. I haven't used it for VoIP yet, but SSH works
just fine. A Palm Pilot (or pdQ) also works just fine.

Plugging a secure VoIP phone into a PCS handset certainly won't be as
convenient as a cell phone with built-in encryption, but at least
it'll make true end-to-end security possible. And I'm pushing hard for
the same packet data service to be provided in Globalstar; we're
already testing it in-house on an ad-hoc basis.

Phil



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