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The well-travelled packet

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Russell Nelson)
Fri Sep 24 17:17:24 1999

From: Russell Nelson <nelson@crynwr.com>
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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
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Forwarded with permission (the permission being the short quote below,
the message being the long one).  I don't have a copy of the
traceroute, but it definitely showed packets going from Washington DC
to NYC through Paris.

Dick St.Peters writes:
 > Well, the questions were really intended to be rhetorical and/or
 > amusing, but sure.  The crypto guys will probably be as amused as
 > anyone.

Dick St.Peters writes:
 > Remember that traceroute I sent you showing packets from me to a site
 > near here going by way of Europe?  I was telling a friend about that
 > this morning, and he asked an interesting question.
 > 
 > Suppose someone on my network sent someone at the site a cryptographic
 > program - a US citizen in the US sending it to another US citizen in
 > the US, but the packet route is via Europe.  Is that illegal?
 > 
 > If so, who is guilty?  My user with no knowledge of the route?
 > Sprint, who sent the packets abroad with no knowledge of what they
 > contained?  EUNet, who BGP-announced the route to Sprint in Europe?
 > 
 > --
 > Dick St.Peters, stpeters@NetHeaven.com 
 > Gatekeeper, NetHeaven, Saratoga Springs, NY
 > Saratoga/Albany/Amsterdam/BoltonLanding/Cobleskill/Greenwich/
 > GlensFalls/LakePlacid/NorthCreek/Plattsburgh/...
 >     Oldest Internet service based in the Adirondack-Albany region


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