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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (staym@accessdata.com)
Wed Jul 21 17:46:09 1999

From: staym@accessdata.com
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:14:34 -0600
To: cryptography@c2.net

The encryption in MS Word / Excel uses 32 *bytes* of salt.  It's
interesting to me that this is just enough room to store a password 16
unicode characters long, the maximum length password you're allowed. 
Just choose the first prime smaller than 2^256, one of say, 1024
multipliers, and modular multiply to get a random-looking salt.  Now the
security's 2^10.  I've been poking around and haven't found any reason
to believe that this actually happens (40-bit encryption is weak enough
as it is), but I still have to wonder-- why so much salt?
-- 
Mike Stay
Cryptographer / Programmer
AccessData Corp.
mailto:staym@accessdata.com


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