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Re: so why is IETF stilling adding DES to protocols? (Re: It's official... DES is History)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William H. Geiger III)
Fri Jun 25 16:21:47 1999

From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@openpgp.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:35:10 -0500
To: Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <377366B9.A1D1816A@algroup.co.uk>
Cc: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>, rah@shipwright.com, dcsb@ai.mit.edu,
        cryptography@c2.net, cypherpunks@cyberpass.net, jis@mit.edu,
        mleech@nortel.ca

In <377366B9.A1D1816A@algroup.co.uk>, on 06/25/99 
   at 12:23 PM, Ben Laurie <ben@algroup.co.uk> said:

>Adam Back wrote:
>> My arguments that adding broken ciphersuites to an IETF standard was
>> in direct and obvious violation of RFC 1984 fell on deaf ears, as
>> Netscape, microsoft and even openSSL (in the form of Ben Laurie)
>> busily rushed and implemented the proposed broken ciphersuites.

>OpenSSL has them disabled by default. But I am torn on this question:
>these new ciphersuites give greater strength than existing ones when
>interopping with export stuff. Is it sensible to refuse to add stronger
>ciphersuites? If it isn't, because they are crap, should we (the OpenSSL
>team) disable _all_ export ciphersuites?

I am *strongly* in favor in disabling all export ciphersuites. There is
just no use for them. Netscrape, Micky$loth, & RSADSI may have no problem
selling false security to their customers, IMHO the OpenSSL group should
be above this.

I really think that a quick end could be brought to the export issue if a
few people overseas sued these companies for fraud.

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