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Re: Is there any future for smartcards?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Tue Sep 13 18:00:33 2005
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From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 14:22:27 -0700
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James A. Donald:
> > Typical worm installation [on a smartphone] goes
> > like this:
> >
> > : : Receive message via bluetooth from
> > : : unnamed device? Y/N
> > : :
> > : : Installation Security warning: Unable to
> > : : verify supplier. Continue anyway? Y/N
Eugen Leitl
> It's just a networked computer that happens to look
> like a mobile phone. Not particularly
> security-oriented.
>
> It also doesn't matter what current malware does on
> the current platform. FWIW, it's still in primitive
> shenanigan stage. It's a question what future malware
> on future mobile platforms will do. It's a machine for
> young social primates. Not suitable for a payment
> system, unless equipped with dedicated, hardened
> cryptographic compartment with dedicated display and
> PIN/biometrics.
Symbian is a lot stronger than Windows or Linux, and we
have been implementing payment systems on Windows/Linux.
> > Seems to me that the phone designers have done a
> > better job with virus, worm, and malware resistance
> > than Microsoft or Linux. Teenagers are pretty
> > sophisticated.
Eugen Leitl
> Are we talking even about the same species? About the
> same teenagers which already own malware-infested PCs,
The teenagers I know almost never get viruses on their
PCs.
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