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Re: Why Blockbuster looks at your ID.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Perry E. Metzger)
Fri Jul 8 16:18:42 2005

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To: Dan Kaminsky <dan@doxpara.com>
Cc: Edgar Danielyan <e.danielyan@gmail.com>,
	cryptography@metzdowd.com
From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 13:16:13 -0400
In-Reply-To: <42CEB302.9070407@doxpara.com> (Dan Kaminsky's message of "Fri,
 08 Jul 2005 10:08:18 -0700")


Dan Kaminsky <dan@doxpara.com> writes:
> Credit card fraud has gone *down* since 1992, and is actually falling:
>
> 1992:  $2.6B
> 2003:  $882M
> 2004:  $788M
>
> We're on the order of 4.7 cents on the $100.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2005/tc20050621_3238_tc024.htm
>
> If it's any consolation, I was rather surprised myself.

I seem to have gotten that one drastically wrong. Thanks for the
more accurate figures.

A back of the envelope calculation makes me think that it is still
more than enough money to provide a good incentive for a change in
systems, though, especially when the cost of the anti-fraud measures
needed at every part of the system are taken in to account.

Perry

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