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Re: Using crypto against Phishing, Spoofing and Spamming...

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rich Salz)
Thu Jul 15 10:38:18 2004

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Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:42:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Rich Salz <rsalz@datapower.com>
To: Hal Finney <hal@finney.org>
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> SET failed due to the complexity of distributing the software and setting
> up the credentials.  I think another reason was the go-fast atmosphere of
> the late 90s, where no one wanted to slow down the growth of ecommerce.
> The path of least resistance was simply to bring across the old way of
> authorizing transactions by card number.

I think your other reason was in fact the primary reason.  And, of course,
the primary enablers of the go-fast approach were, in fact, the very same
credit card companies.  They made a conscious business decision to treat
online transactions the same as conventional transactions -- I forget the
details, but it was pretty risk-free for a merchant to do online credit
cards, getting low surchage rates.  That, coupled with the US law that
limited consumer liability to $50, made CCard-over-SSL a no-brainer over
SET.

>From a consumer viewpoint, CC/SSL is more secure then SET ever was.  Since
it wasn't a CCard transacdtion, my liability under SET was unlimited (at
least until Congress caught up to the technology).  Looking at the risk
management aspect, SET was a big loser for the customer.

	/r$

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