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Re: Passwords can sit on disk for years

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Gilmore)
Wed Jun 9 09:07:13 2004

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To: Jerrold Leichter <jerrold.leichter@smarts.com>
Cc: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>,
	cryptography23094893@aquick.org, cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: Message from Jerrold Leichter <jerrold.leichter@smarts.com> 
   of "Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:35:46 EDT." <Pine.GSO.4.58.0406081127330.12597@frame> 
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2004 22:54:04 -0700
From: John Gilmore <gnu@toad.com>

> Really, a "red page" needs to be "red" all the way through all levels of
> virtualization.  Very low level, or even hardware, support might even prove
> useful - e.g., if for whatever reason the data in the physical page frame
> needs to be copied (after a soft ECC error?), zero the previous page frame.)

Intel, Microsoft and Hollywood are solving this for us.  Their new
hardware can't be virtualized, so it can't leak the
monopolists/oligopolists' keys.  In their scheme, of course, OUR keys
don't get the same level of protection as monopolist keys.

	John

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