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Re: [Cryptography] Crypto being blamed in the London riots.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sampo Syreeni)
Wed Aug 10 10:12:07 2011

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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 03:02:28 +0300 (EEST)
From: Sampo Syreeni <decoy@iki.fi>
To: Nick <cryptography-list@njw.me.uk>
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On 2011-08-09, Nick wrote:

> However, as was pointed out then, apparently the encryption is to & 
> from RIM's servers, not the recipient. So RIM have access to all the 
> 'secret' messages. I expect GCHQ & the Met will make sure said systems 
> are patched in to their surveillance programme in no time.

Thus, why not turn the Trusted Computing idea on its head? Simply make 
P2P public key cryptography available to your customers, and then bind 
your hands behind your back in an Odysseian fasion, using hardware 
means? Simply make it impossible for even yourself to circumvent the 
best cryptographic protocol you can invent, which you embed in your 
device before ever unveiling it, and then just live with it?

> Unfortunately the present climate in England is such that I can't 
> imagine such measures being anything but lauded.

Thus the need for credible precommitment, TC-style, at the hardware 
level..
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