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Re: Something you have, something else you have, and, uh, something else you have

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bernie Cosell)
Mon Sep 27 20:02:31 2010

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From: "Bernie Cosell" <bernie@fantasyfarm.com>
To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:36:32 -0400
In-reply-to: <E1OwWhb-0003uQ-8I@wintermute02.cs.auckland.ac.nz>

On 17 Sep 2010 at 20:53, Peter Gutmann wrote:

> >From the ukcrypto mailing list:
> 
>   Just had a new Lloyds credit card delivered, it had a sticker saying I have
>   to call a number to activate it. I call, it's an automated system.
> 
>   It asks for the card number, fair enough. It asks for the expiry date, well
>   maybe, It asks for my DOB, the only information that isn't actually on the
>   card, but no big secret. And then it asks for the three-digit-security-code-
>   on-the-back, well wtf?

> Looks like it's not just US banks whose interpretation of n-factor auth is "n
> times as much 1-factor auth".

Well, as I understood it, a key part of the auth that wasn't mentioned 
was the source telephone #, and so lost-in-the-mail/theft would, on top 
of guessing the trivial questions, also have to call from your home phone 
[or the phone "associated" with the account].  Not perfectly secure but I 
was under the impression that ANI was harder to spoof than CallerID is.

  /Bernie\

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