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Re: Client Certificate UI for Chrome?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Wes Felter)
Thu Aug 13 08:09:13 2009

To: cryptography@metzdowd.com
From:  Wes Felter <wesley@felter.org>
Date:  Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:26:02 -0500
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James A. Donald wrote:

> For password-authenticated key agreement such as TLS-SRP
> or TLS-PSK to work, login has to be in the chrome.

Regrettably, login in the (non-customizable) chrome is unusable; this is 
why *everyone* now uses cookies instead of HTTP authentication. Just 
asking the user for a username instead of an email address can trip them up.

SSL has a worse problem AFAIK, which is that the server either always 
asks for a client cert (before the login page) or never asks, but I 
think we want to show a login page over SSL, *then* ask the user for 
their cert or password.

Despite its complexity, I'm thinking that something like infocards -- 
where some HTML tag or JS API can trigger the browser to perform secure 
authentication with an unspoofable UI -- is the way to go.

Wes Felter

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