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Re: Security by asking the drunk whether he's drunk

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Gutmann)
Fri Dec 26 23:42:43 2008

From: pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz (Peter Gutmann)
To: adam@homeport.org, dan@geer.org
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <20081223222307.E4DAE33F4B@absinthe.tinho.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:39:50 +1300

dan@geer.org writes:

>I'm hoping this is just a single instance but it makes you remember that the
>browser pre-trusted certificate authorities really needs to be cleaned up.

Given the more or less complete failure of commercial PKI for both SSL web 
browsing and code-signing (as evidenced by the multibillion-dollar cybercrime 
industry freely doing all the things that SSL certs and code-signing were 
supposed to prevent them from doing), it's not so much "cleaned up" as 
"replaced with something that may actually work".  Adding support for a 
service like Perspectives (discussed here a month or two back) would be a good 
start since it provides some of the assurance that a commercial PKI can't (and 
as an additional benefit it also works for SSH servers, since it's not built 
around certificates).

So, when will Google add Perspectives support to their search database? :-).

Peter.

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