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Re: traffic analysis (was: blackmail / stego)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Honig)
Wed Aug 27 19:30:47 2003
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:52:30 -0700
To: Jim McCoy <mccoy@mad-scientist.com>, cryptography@metzdowd.com
From: David Honig <dahonig@cox.net>
In-Reply-To: <5138B771-D8C9-11D7-884F-000393071F50@mad-scientist.com>
At 01:01 PM 8/27/03 -0700, Jim McCoy wrote:
>While IANL, it seems that the whole anonymity game has a flaw that
>doesn't even require a totalitarian regime. I would direct you to the
>various laws in the US (to pick a random example :) regarding
>conspiracy. Subscribing to an anonymity service might not become
>illegal, but if anyone in your "crowd" was performing an illegal action
>you may be guilty of conspiracy to commit this action.
Ok, so you have a EULA in which you prohibit "offensive" behavior.
A crowd-member might violate this, but any "chaff" crowd-member
would have a legal defense ---"Hey, I used the foobar service
to avoid hackers finding my IP, its not my fault if someone threatened the
king"
A real police state would just Tomahawk the servers. After rubber
hosing the operators. Anything less than a Total Police State
would have to acknowledge innocent subscribers.
Kinda like (ca. 1980) yeah, I have a cell phone, its because I
am on the road ---I'm not a pharmdealer, even if half the carrier's
traffic is dubious.
Or, moving into this century, "yeah, I use KaZaa++, but its to
download unrecognized indie bands, not MetalliMadonna"
(assuming K++ were anonymous..)
Of course, its becoming easier and easier to be a total police state..
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