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Re: Columbia crypto box

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Bill Frantz)
Mon Feb 10 20:09:50 2003

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Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:55:44 -0800
To: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@research.att.com>
From: Bill Frantz <frantz@pwpconsult.com>
Cc: cryptography@wasabisystems.com

At 4:29 PM -0800 2/10/03, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>In message <v03110705ba6dec92ddb0@[192.168.1.5]>, Bill Frantz writes:
>
>>  * Fast key setup (Forget tossing the 256 bytes of key stream.
>>    The designers weren't crypto engineers.  Personally, I'd toss the
>>    first 1024.)
>
>...
>
>There may be a cryptographically sound reason to discard that much, but
>it's not without cost.

The reason I would discard so much is that when I did some statistics on
RC4 output, I kept getting distribution lumps out to about 1024.  They made
me worry about what someone who knew what were doing could do.

Cheers - Bill


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