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Re: [mm] OpenSparc -- the open source chip (except for the crypto

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ben Laurie)
Mon May 5 19:58:03 2008

Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 13:50:12 +0100
From: Ben Laurie <ben@links.org>
To: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
CC: Marcos el Ruptor <ruptor@cryptolib.com>, 
 Cryptography <cryptography@metzdowd.com>
In-Reply-To: <87d4o0ncoz.fsf@snark.cb.piermont.com>

Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> Ben Laurie <ben@links.org> writes:
>> I think that's blatantly untrue. For example, if I look at an AND
>> gate, I can be absolutely sure about its security properties.
> 
> An AND gate isn't Turing Equivalent.

Nor are most algorithms.

>> Rice's theorem says you can't _always_ solve this problem. It says
>> nothing about figuring out special cases.
> 
> Any modern processor is sufficiently larger than an AND gate that it
> is no longer tractable. It isn't even possible to describe the
> security properties one would need to (formally) prove.

I won't debate that, but its not a consequence of Rice's Theorem.

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