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Re: how to read information from RFID equipped credit cards

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James A. Donald)
Fri Mar 28 15:38:01 2008

Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 06:24:40 +1000
From: "James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com>
To: Ben Laurie <ben@links.org>
CC: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>, cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <47E565AB.4090708@links.org>

Ben Laurie wrote:
 > Then we get to the next problem: we don't trust the
 > device with the keypad and display. So, we need to add
 > that to the GTCYM (Gadget That Controls Your Money).
 >
 > And so we end up at the position that we have ended up
 > at so many times before: the GTCYM has to have a
 > decent processor, a keyboard and a screen, and must be
 > portable and secure.

Sounds remarkably like a cell phone with an NFC

 > One day we'll stop concluding this and actually do
 > something about it.

Some of the poorest third world countries and some ex
communist countries are adopting mobile phone banking,
for example <https://www.mpay.pl/en/>, perhaps because
they are not weighed down with twentieth century
infrastructure, but until cell phones come routinely
equipped with NFC, you cannot use a cell phone to pay
for groceries.

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